Piercing The Body?

[PaulaFoghisx0]

I thought this was interesting..


http://www.bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=254

[Canadian, eh?]

Oh boy...you just opened a can of worms....:p:

[portliner]

Never. God made people beautiful already. What would you ad anyway a You wana look like this (http://www.rubberroom101.com/Pictures/other/ARTURO%20BALSEIRO%20DEFORMED%20GUY.jpg). Dont think So..

[PaulaFoghisx0]

lol ^ good example. i like..

[khol ve yam]

hmm...personally...i think moderation is the rule of everything. and...

i read the article and was a little disappointed. i don't think she really makes clear that most of the verses she's using are talking about literal mutilation, like cutting yourself, burning yourself,etc, all in the course of someone dying in your family or tribe. in biblical times, when a person belonging to your house died, you would cover yourself in ashes, wear drab clothes, shave the top of your head and cut yourself all over--like mordechi in esther. nowhere in many of the verses she uses does it mention ear-piercing. and the verses she uses to speak about earrings (most of them, anyway) aren't really...like...going against the practice. for example,

"Exodus 32:2-3: "And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me. And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.""

with these earrings, aaron made the golden calf. it doesn't really even say that having earrings is actually bad. in fact, it goes to show that God's chosen people joined in the practice of decorative piercing. and the other verses (barring the one of genesis and corinthians) all speak of how the women use earrings,, noserings etc with necklaces, bracelets and veils for decoration...now...again, the rule is moderation, it seems, in the article.

personally, i don't think, in america at least, things like ear piercing are anything other than decorative. of course, my dad, the theologian, wouldn't let me pierce my ears til i was 15, and this was after my mom goaded him into it=]

anyway, i don't want to contribute to the opening of said can of worms. i appreciated that the article brought forward some of these issues. but i don't think she really used the right verses to get the point across.

[st3lliano]

Jesus was pierced (by a spear)....

why cant we :D

[Elle_Rose2]

well i wear earings and idont see anything wrong with that....i wouldnt go anywhere futher than that...i had my nose pierced and my belly but that was in the past before i gave my life to the Lord

[PaulaFoghisx0]

i thought it was interesting. i researched diff. articles about it. personally, i don't have anything wrong with it. but as for myself, i wouldn't pierce mine.

[ro<><mi]

Jesus was pierced (by a spear)....

why cant we :D

Jesus didn't pierce himself :uhuh: dah

[micutu]

Jesus was pierced (by a spear)....

why cant we :D
I agree we should all crucify one another and pierce ourselves to death...

[Titus]

Q1: WWJD?
Q2: Why would u pierce yourself? Does it help u in any way living for the Lord?

If u thing Jesus would pierce himself and if it does help u getting closer to the Lord, by all means brother or sister do it!!!

[Captivated]

Q1: WWJD?
Q2: Why would u pierce yourself? Does it help u in any way living for the Lord?

If u thing Jesus would pierce himself and if it does help u getting closer to the Lord, by all means brother or sister do it!!!


But would it distance you?

I have my ears pierced... I'm not mutilating my body or doing some kind of freaky-dinky witch craft. Im closer to the Lord then I ever have been, but its not because I have pierce ears or don't. As he told me this morning in my quiet time..He looks deeply at our heart and our intentions.

You have to have wisdom about it. If you lack wisdom..dont pierce a thing.
Biblically we know heaven is going to be full of all nations, tribes & tongues. People have got to get out of their cute little Amish like bubble. (And I have not one thing against the Amish they are simple and wise people) But you cannot ignore the other beautiful cultures out there.. look at the Africans, the Indians, the mexcians..i can go on and on... But having said that do you honestly think that all those people are going to be your typical white-collar-picket-fenced-Dodge Stratus Driving-person..you are sadly mistaken. We are all different but in one major factor in common; Jesus. And that makes all the difference

But yes. I will agree

this thread opened a can of worms....just when I thought it was cooling down on royouth..i was wrong.

[Titus]

But would it distance you?

I have my ears pierced... I'm not mutilating my body or doing some kind of freaky-dinky witch craft. Im closer to the Lord then I ever have been, but its not because I have pierce ears or don't. As he told me this morning in my quiet time..He looks deeply at our heart and our intentions.

You have to have wisdom about it. If you lack wisdom..dont pierce a thing.
Biblically we know heaven is going to be full of all nations, tribes & tongues. People have got to get out of their cute little Amish like bubble. (And I have not one thing against the Amish they are simple and wise people) But you cannot ignore the other beautiful cultures out there.. look at the Africans, the Indians, the mexcians..i can go on and on... But having said that do you honestly think that all those people are going to be your typical white-collar-picket-fenced-Dodge Stratus Driving-person..you are sadly mistaken. We are all different but in one major factor in common; Jesus. And that makes all the difference

But yes. I will agree

this thread opened a can of worms....just when I thought it was cooling down on royouth..i was wrong.

So someone got offended. Y?

Must i remind u of what Paul says: multe lucruri ne sunt ingaduite dar nu toate ne sunt de folos?
Again i raise the question: Y do u get a piercing, even your ears? I'm not saying it's a sin don't get confused, i'm saying y u do the things u do? How do you explain them?
I'm not judging, i don't even want an answer. I just want each and everyone to ask him/herself what is the meaning behind the actions?

[vocea]

I read this and first thing that came in my mind is this. The situation in bible times. People were focusing so much on fulfitting the law that when ever Jesus wanted to heal someone in the day of sabath they condemed Him for doing so.

Anyways it brought that thought up. The reason is I do not like when a person is condemed by the other "christions" around because of how or what they do. I meen we are all humans and all make mistakes and all have sin. I've just seen in a lot of times things made me think a lot of in this case.
Anyways another thing though is this one. Wich I do not understand?? Why is it that a person a youth that was brought up in the church and everything how come they go toward that kind of situations why do they start getting piercings and or tatoos and so fourth. Not that I am saying its a bad thing just thinking about it??? To me it seems as if the thing monkey see monkey do falls into play hear. What you see is what you do. If all you see is people with earing and tatoos and you admire them then thats what you want to do. If your eyes are not on that then you want what your eyes are on, what you have a passion for. Anyways take care you all and God Bless

[Titus]

Yes brothers and sisters it is true: all that matters is the heart. Period. Nothing else matters. I hope we all agree with this.
But it is said: din prinosul inimii vorbeste gura ... si ... nu ce intra spurca pe om ci cea ce iasa. Now think about it every action has meaning there are no meaningless actions. We do things the way we do them because.....and we have a reason or more. Where does that reason comes from? From the bottom of your heart, from your depeest beliefs or from other feelings like for example frustration, anger, fear, a need for belonging or u name it. Every action has a reason based on beliefs or feelings which is what makes u who u are. Agree? If u do then it is clear that who u are, who u want to be or who want to pretend u are makes u do what u do. So if u think backwards u can see that what u do points out who u are (fiecare e cunoscut dupa roadele lui). Amen? There are no bad things. But the meaning we give them makes them bad. EX: Are letters bad? Of course not but if u put them together in a certain way can make pretty bad words.
So it's with what we are doing. An earing it's a piece of metal it cannot be bad in its self but what is the meaning behind it? Is it a pure tought then that earing can help u it is a "not so pure tought" then it will hold u. So u see y i ask y u do what u do? That y gives a certain value to everything. Without the y there's no value. But there's always a y. So we have to constantly ask ourselves y am i doing what i am doing?
I hope u got my point. It is beyond legalism and liberalism or however u want to call them. It has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with someone. It is about the essence.

[PaulaFoghisx0]

i agree. everything that matters is inside the heart. i have christian friends who have their ears pierced.. and that does not make them 'bad people'.
BUT.. the way i look at it.. is i go to school everyday.. and im flooded with non-believers, who have piercings, tatoos, etc. for me.. i just dont find it useful for me.. i dont want to be like them.
it depends on the person.. not everyone is the same. so i try not to be so quick to judge.
this topic is sensitive for a lot of ppl and kinda iffy.

[MeTrO]

well, my bro has an earing and I don't think there's anything wrong with it. It actually kinda suits him. People wear all sorts of little accessories and as long as it's tastefull I can't see much wrong with it.

Anyway, most of this stuff about piercings and tatoos is old testament based, written for the Jewish people under the old covenant. For all those who want to live by it, maybee you should go get yourself circumcised as well, just so that you truly live according to the law. :)

[Captivated]

So someone got offended. Y?

Must i remind u of what Paul says: multe lucruri ne sunt ingaduite dar nu toate ne sunt de folos?
Again i raise the question: Y do u get a piercing, even your ears? I'm not saying it's a sin don't get confused, i'm saying y u do the things u do? How do you explain them?
I'm not judging, i don't even want an answer. I just want each and everyone to ask him/herself what is the meaning behind the actions?


I got mine done because it makes me feel a bit more girly :D ....im ready to get punched in the face for that comment. But its the truth. I don't wear them always... Here is a secret. I used to have other piercings that I got convicted over and they are gone. I had a bit of conviction about not telling my parents about my ears so once I showed them, yeah romo parents get mad about it...but a weight was off my shoulders, they told me not to wear them infront of them. and that's that.

I don't think ppl should be making a big deal over it. I know a pastor who kicked a girl out of choir for having earrings. She's one of the few women of God in that church, and I think that was very dumb choice on His part.

I'll focus on God instead of rules...there is a fine line between legalism and lasciviousness, the Holy sprit helps me stay on a right balance.

Bible says even a fool who walks on Gods way is a wise man.

[mary1984]

i got earings and i belive there is nothing wrong with them. :) and yes yes I am a newborn Christian.

[ShE_KnOwS]

Some of you are to foolish and stubborn... to know that piercing is wrong.

[mary1984]

Some of you are to foolish and stubborn... to know that piercing is wrong.
no not at all. some ppl are just tooo stuck up and refuse to be open minded. o well you do not have to agree . as long as you r not judgemental that's cool with me.

[KrazyEuro]

So someone got offended. Y?

Must i remind u of what Paul says: multe lucruri ne sunt ingaduite dar nu toate ne sunt de folos?
Again i raise the question: Y do u get a piercing, even your ears? I'm not saying it's a sin don't get confused, i'm saying y u do the things u do? How do you explain them?
I'm not judging, i don't even want an answer. I just want each and everyone to ask him/herself what is the meaning behind the actions?


So ok titus, let me use your reasoning in this post to figure things out. Today, i am a new believer to the faith. I just read what you wrote. Ah, it makes sense. Explain this to me then.


knife
swords

You posted this under the "what's the first thing in your head" thread. Is this "de folos"? Whats the meaning of posting this? is it good intentions, bad intentions? I'm not judging you, but how do you explain coming on RoYouth to write these words out? are you having thoughts of suicide? Doesn't make sense to me why you would write this on RoYouth. "nu-i de folos" to write this, so why did you? I'm not saying you're sinning for writing this out, but why do it?


If you hadn't guessed yet, those are rhetorical questions and i dont need an answer nor do i care what you're answer is. Are you remotely interested in why someone wears earrings? Will you be happy with someones answer if they say "cus it makes me feel good"? Coming on RoYouth to posts makes you feel good doesn't it? Hanging out with your buddies makes you feel good right? playing sports (if you do) makes you feel good eh? Dont use the argument that "sin makes me feel good so i should do that too?" because that's foolish and then i'd feel dumb wasting my time posting this if i would've known i would've gotten a foolish response like that. Anyways. Lets be wise in how we think. Or perhaps, like someone just told me, that i'm using my natural unspiritual mind to discern things and the beauty of what you're saying is foolish to me because i'm carnal minded, unspiritual. Who knows, maybe i decieved myself into thinking that the way i think is spiritual, but in reality, i'm blinded to the truth. Then to my shame, i'm a fool. Now that would suck

[sandgroper]

Piercings = hot.

Thank you.

[colt]

In zilele de azi ce mai este päcat ... incetu cu inctu excludem päcatul din viata noasträ ... dar nu prin faptul cä ne pocäim ci prin faptul cä nu il mai numim päcat.

TREZITI-VÄ la REALITATE, DUMEZEU este SFÄNT.

[DannyKevin]

Jesus was pierced (by a spear)....

why cant we :D


You have very weird logic.Jesus was pierced for you so that you won`t get pierced. :amen:

[KrazyEuro]

You have very weird logic.Jesus was pierced for you so that you won`t get pierced. :amen:



really? beat me silly because i thought he got pierced to fulfill a prophecy and for the romans soldiers to make sure he's dead. I'm more lost than i thought.

[KrazyEuro]

In zilele de azi ce mai este päcat ... incetu cu inctu excludem päcatul din viata noasträ ... dar nu prin faptul cä ne pocäim ci prin faptul cä nu il mai numim päcat.

TREZITI-VÄ la REALITATE, DUMEZEU este SFÄNT.


Daca te ma-i vad pe RoYoot, va-i de tine, sa stii ca traiesti in pacat. Nimic nu ma-i pacat pentru tine, nici RoYoot. Ai mila. Isus a venit pe RoYoot? Trezestate omule, ca timpul e scurt. Sa nu te prinde pe tine pe RoYoot, va-i.

[colt]

Daca te ma-i vad pe RoYoot, va-i de tine, sa stii ca traiesti in pacat. Nimic nu ma-i pacat pentru tine, nici RoYoot. Ai mila. Isus a venit pe RoYoot? Trezestate omule, ca timpul e scurt. Sa nu te prinde pe tine pe RoYoot, va-i.
Dacä ai fi mai explicit te-asi intelege dar asa nu prea inteleg ce vrei sä spui ...
Nu titlurile noastre de profesor sau doctor in teologie ne mäntuieste pe noi ... ci viata träita cu adevärat längä Isus. Asa zisi "crestini" de azi au capu mare de tot iar trupul (mäinile, picoarele, etc.) mici de tot ... doare teorie cätä incape dar practicä cä de putin se poate. (nu mä refer la tine ci in mod general). Mai mult nu am de spus ...

[KrazyEuro]

Dacä ai fi mai explicit te-asi intelege dar asa nu prea inteleg ce vrei sä spui ...
Nu titlurile noastre de profesor sau doctor in teologie ne mäntuieste pe noi ... ci viata träita cu adevärat längä Isus. Mai mult nu am de spus ...


I was referring to your comment you made. You were referring to certain people who dont believe wearing these pierciings is a sin. Because you believe it's a sin and some people dont. So you made that comment that we believe nothing is a sin anymore. And i replied saying that Royouth is a sin as well becaus Christ never came on it, and i dont think that Jesus would spend His time on RoYouth. You know, apply the same logic most poeple use. WWJD? i donno, Jesus wouldn't do alot of things. I doubt he'd watch football games sundays after church. Or stay up til 5am posting on RoYouth. There's alot of things i dont think Jesus would do, so what? It's not about what would Jesus do, it's about what did Jesus do? Instead of focusing on little junk like these as 'sins', how about we focus on what the bible teaches us what sin is. You know, Lust of the Flesh. Lust of the Eyes. Tell me something Colt, are you defeating the temptations of the flesh? are you conquering the lust of the flesh? Or are you giving in?

[colt]

I was referring to your comment you made. You were referring to certain people who dont believe wearing these pierciings is a sin. Because you believe it's a sin and some people dont. So you made that comment that we believe nothing is a sin anymore. And i replied saying that Royouth is a sin as well becaus Christ never came on it, and i dont think that Jesus would spend His time on RoYouth. You know, apply the same logic most poeple use. WWJD? i donno, Jesus wouldn't do alot of things. I doubt he'd watch football games sundays after church. Or stay up til 5am posting on RoYouth. There's alot of things i dont think Jesus would do, so what? It's not about what would Jesus do, it's about what did Jesus do? Instead of focusing on little junk like these as 'sins', how about we focus on what the bible teaches us what sin is. You know, Lust of the Flesh. Lust of the Eyes. Tell me something Colt, are you defeating the temptations of the flesh? are you conquering the lust of the flesh? Or are you giving in?
Eu cred cä nu mai inteles bine :D
Nici de cum eu nu am spus cä nimic nu mai este päcat ... ce am spus eu este cä pentru marea majoritate nu mai este nimic päcat. Am fost putin ironic in cea ce am scris ... am spus cä excludem päcatul din viata noasträ dar nu prin faptrul cä ne POCÄIM cu adevärat ci prin faptul cä spunem: "Piercing nu mai este päcat, a bärfi pe aproapele täu nu mai este päcat, relatile intre cei necäsätoriti nu mai au lumite poti sä faci ce vrei, etc. " Eu la asta m-am referit si am spus sä nu ne inseläm singur cu afirmati din astea ...
Si da piercing este päcat pt. cä noi suntem nemultumiti cum nea creat Dumnezeu si incepem sä modificäm ... ba un cercel ba un tatuaj ... Print astfel de lucruri noi suntem de pärerea cä Dumnezeu nu stie ce este frumos, noi suntem mai destepti de cät Dumnezeu ... mä intelegi?
Si ce mä priveste pe mine nu am cum sä spun cä nu am si eu päcate ... cu toti suntem päcätosi si avem scäzämintele noastre dar ce este important e sä iesim din stärile acelea. Viata este plinä de urcusuri dar si de coboräri ... O datä suntem plini de credintä si peste cätva timp doboräti la pämänt si färä o nädejde.

Din cauza asta am spus eu ca sä ne TREZIM.

[DannyKevin]

really? beat me silly because i thought he got pierced to fulfill a prophecy and for the romans soldiers to make sure he's dead. I'm more lost than i thought.

I know what you say.I just wanted to use a "joc de cuvinte" to show my opinion on piercing.

[PaPusIcA Ta]

hello to my brothers and sisters!!! i hope everyone is having a blessed day!!! well, lets see. i have my ears peirced, and i use to wear alot alot of make up but recently God has given me the conviction. I am not saying that what i have been convicted of is for everyone but let me go on. In the past 2 months i have been very drawn to the books of corinthians. and i believe it is in 2 corinthians 6 it says that we should seperate ourselves from the world. we are not OF THE WORLD..in exodus yea it shows that the isralites wore jewlery but from the jewlary they made an idol...secondly i personaly felt extremely convicted because as i thought about it make up and jewlary were taking up the time that i could have been praying or reading (once again b4 any1 gets offended this is ME) i believe that we are suppose to live a life of humility,humbleness, and modestiy...if u ask ur self WWJD i would think that he would chose for us to be modest. In the ancient times the people who wore make up and jewlary would normaly and usually be the high preistest and pharos... i think that God created each of us beautifully in one way..
(outside and inside) ...but in order for that beauty to really show is to let the light of God work in my heart,your heart and everyones heart...because God creates beauty from inside to out for those who walk his path!!!

Have a Beautiful Day!!!!

[EyeDoughnutNo]

I was referring to your comment you made. You were referring to certain people who dont believe wearing these pierciings is a sin. Because you believe it's a sin and some people dont. So you made that comment that we believe nothing is a sin anymore. And i replied saying that Royouth is a sin as well becaus Christ never came on it, and i dont think that Jesus would spend His time on RoYouth. You know, apply the same logic most poeple use. WWJD? i donno, Jesus wouldn't do alot of things. I doubt he'd watch football games sundays after church. Or stay up til 5am posting on RoYouth. There's alot of things i dont think Jesus would do, so what? It's not about what would Jesus do, it's about what did Jesus do? Instead of focusing on little junk like these as 'sins', how about we focus on what the bible teaches us what sin is. You know, Lust of the Flesh. Lust of the Eyes. Tell me something Colt, are you defeating the temptations of the flesh? are you conquering the lust of the flesh? Or are you giving in?
Asking yourself what Jesus would do in a situation or under set conditions is perfectly adequate. The Word of God teaches us that our goal in life is to become as Christlike as possible. We are to try to follow in his footsteps as much as we can. If anyone should be our role model, it's Him. The question is not what he did, it is about what he would do.

By the way, a sin is a sin whether you believe it as a sin or not.

[KrazyEuro]

Asking yourself what Jesus would do in a situation or under set conditions is perfectly adequate. The Word of God teaches us that our goal in life is to become as Christlike as possible. We are to try to follow in his footsteps as much as we can. If anyone should be our role model, it's Him. The question is not what he did, it is about what he would do.

By the way, a sin is a sin whether you believe it as a sin or not.



If we are to be like Him, we need to look back at what he did, and figure out what he did, not what he would do.



Sin is Sin regardless if we think it's sin or not. Or another way to say it, Sin is Sin when the bible declares it to be Sin. If you show me a verse where it says that piercings is equivelant to sin, then i will renew my mind in that aspect. It's that simple.

[FoRgIvEn]

If anyone is trying to prove piercing your body is sin, please don't use Leviticus 19:28 because thats talking about burial of the dead. A lot of Romanian pastors have used this verse to justify their reasoning, but they took it completely out of context

[st3lliano]

Asking yourself what Jesus would do in a situation or under set conditions is perfectly adequate. The Word of God teaches us that our goal in life is to become as Christlike as possible. We are to try to follow in his footsteps as much as we can. If anyone should be our role model, it's Him. The question is not what he did, it is about what he would do.

By the way, a sin is a sin whether you believe it as a sin or not.


im not sure if this is a major distinction or not, but it shouldnt be "what would Jesus do?" because this would require that we create a "relativistic Jesus"; one whose actions are justified by logic.

The question should be more "what would Jesus HAVE ME do?" when phrased this way, the answer is simple. Look to the Word of God, and you will know.....

as for piercings, i put it in the same boat as eating pork, or painting your toenails. if you hold that all things that are done to the body are sins, then you ultimately will always sin. However, if you think its no big deal, because God doesnt judge our bodies, but our hearts, well then, you might get find a different answer.

[colt]

If anyone is trying to prove piercing your body is sin, please don't use Leviticus 19:28 because thats talking about burial of the dead. A lot of Romanian pastors have used this verse to justify their reasoning, but they took it completely out of context
Pentru tine si pentru alte persoane ca si tine ar mai fi nevoie sä vinä Isus din nou pe pämänt si sä mai moarä incä o datä, si dupä aia sä se mai scrie o altä Biblie cu termenile din secolul al 21. (piercing, tigäri, droguri, bere, etc.) pentru cä sä intelegi ce este päcat si ce nu ... :nono:

[DannyKevin]

If anyone is trying to prove piercing your body is sin, please don't use Leviticus 19:28 because thats talking about burial of the dead. A lot of Romanian pastors have used this verse to justify their reasoning, but they took it completely out of context

Ai lasa-ma.:wall2: As I know the law represents the character of God.

You know this verse from 1Co 11:14 Nu vã învaþã chiar ºi firea cã este ruºine pentru......... and you can put piercing here as well.

[treeclimber]

i think its wrong, it says so in the bible, the other day, i was wondering how people clam there correct with percings

[EyeDoughnutNo]

If we are to be like Him, we need to look back at what he did, and figure out what he did, not what he would do.



Sin is Sin regardless if we think it's sin or not. Or another way to say it, Sin is Sin when the bible declares it to be Sin. If you show me a verse where it says that piercings is equivelant to sin, then i will renew my mind in that aspect. It's that simple.
First of all, everything Christ did is not recorded. There will never be enough space or time in this world to discuss everything that Christ did for us anyway. Either way, the only way to be like Him is to figure out who He truly is in order to know what we should do to continue following Him in the way He desires from us.

As Titus mentioned earlier, everything is permitted, but not all is beneficial. While the world teaches us to say "why not" in most cases, trying to do everything possible to push the limits by finding what seem to be loop holes in every situation, this verse teaches us to go against our instinct and ask why we do certain things and possibly how they benefit the kingdom of God. Realizing why you do certain thing is often times the key to repentance, which was the reason Christ came for us in the first place and preached the kingdom to all who would hear--to give us the chance to repent and be free from sin and the world. Jesus said in the parable of the vineyard that all vines that do not bear fruit will be cut down. We should all look to do more for the kingdom and less for the world.

Christ gives us freedom from the world and sin, while the world tries to give us freedom from Christ. That's the way Satan has worked since the VERY beginning, and it still works today.

[EyeDoughnutNo]

im not sure if this is a major distinction or not, but it shouldnt be "what would Jesus do?" because this would require that we create a "relativistic Jesus"; one whose actions are justified by logic.

The question should be more "what would Jesus HAVE ME do?" when phrased this way, the answer is simple. Look to the Word of God, and you will know.....

as for piercings, i put it in the same boat as eating pork, or painting your toenails. if you hold that all things that are done to the body are sins, then you ultimately will always sin. However, if you think its no big deal, because God doesnt judge our bodies, but our hearts, well then, you might get find a different answer.
God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. We are the ones who continuously change.

The only way to know what Jesus would "theoretically" do is to look back and see what he already did for us (these two are connected--you cannot separate one from the other because God is forever), and to actually have a relationship with Christ (this is the key to discerning right from wrong). Christ said that others will know who His disciples are if they love each other as He loved them.

Whatever you have in your heart shows through on the outside. If you are cleaned inside, you will desire to clean the outside as well, which many will testify to and already have.

I have to go bust down some walls now...

[Titus]

So ok titus, let me use your reasoning in this post to figure things out. Today, i am a new believer to the faith. I just read what you wrote. Ah, it makes sense. Explain this to me then.




You posted this under the "what's the first thing in your head" thread. Is this "de folos"? Whats the meaning of posting this? is it good intentions, bad intentions? I'm not judging you, but how do you explain coming on RoYouth to write these words out? are you having thoughts of suicide? Doesn't make sense to me why you would write this on RoYouth. "nu-i de folos" to write this, so why did you? I'm not saying you're sinning for writing this out, but why do it?


If you hadn't guessed yet, those are rhetorical questions and i dont need an answer nor do i care what you're answer is. Are you remotely interested in why someone wears earrings? Will you be happy with someones answer if they say "cus it makes me feel good"? Coming on RoYouth to posts makes you feel good doesn't it? Hanging out with your buddies makes you feel good right? playing sports (if you do) makes you feel good eh? Dont use the argument that "sin makes me feel good so i should do that too?" because that's foolish and then i'd feel dumb wasting my time posting this if i would've known i would've gotten a foolish response like that. Anyways. Lets be wise in how we think. Or perhaps, like someone just told me, that i'm using my natural unspiritual mind to discern things and the beauty of what you're saying is foolish to me because i'm carnal minded, unspiritual. Who knows, maybe i decieved myself into thinking that the way i think is spiritual, but in reality, i'm blinded to the truth. Then to my shame, i'm a fool. Now that would suck

U are off the point with the comment about my post on the other thread...the suicidal thing is so off is not even funny...if u were to look at the post before the word was butter....first thing in my head was knife ...cuz i use a knife when i eat butter to spread it on bread, muffin or whatever. I think u r a smart guy but if u try to hard ..... :nono:
Comparing coming to royouth, playing any sport or watching any sport to piercing it's the same with your other example. The things u are comparing are not even in the same zip code. Think about it. How widely is accepted playing sports and watching sports and how widely accepted is piercing, and i say this because even if u have nothing against piercing just because some other brother or sister of yours might do like you just so he/she is like you and she does it against his/hers conscience u sin against God. It's not me who says it but Paul:
1 Corinthians 8: 9Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 10For if anyone with a weak conscience sees you who have this knowledge eating in an idol's temple, won't he be emboldened to eat what has been sacrificed to idols? 11So this weak brother, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12When you sin against your brothers in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause him to fall.

[KrazyEuro]

cool man, dont pierce your body. I ask you then, because you're a smart cookie...

You belive that there is something called "living in sin" right? i hope so. Anyways...


If getting a tatoo is a sin, and someone comes to Christ, what happens if they dont remove the tatoo? are they living in sin?

[Titus]

Yes he/she is living in sin. Is this the answer u've been expected?
Who said getting a tatoo is sin? All i said was: Does it help you in any way? More then that does it harm anyone around you? Many things are permitted, but not all are beneficial, and if your expression of freedom causes your brother or sister to fall u have sinned against Christ the Lord. It's not just about you, it's not just about what u think it's about the Body.
Arguing that we all do things that Jesus wouldn't do so it's okay if we pierce our bodies it's plain wrong. It's all about the reason y u do what u do. And the question is y would u pierce your body? Honestly i can't find a resonable answer. Don't get me wrong i'm not judging those who have....it's their business but my business is to make it clear that it might be a posibility that the piercing has no gain and more then that has loses.

Maybe i'm just narrow minded about this.

[Tully]

i believe that God will love anyone no matter what is on or in their body. i have 6 piercings in my ear, and i've once pierced my nose and my bellybutton twice. i understand why it would be seen as a severe alteration that was not intended by God, but i think that God gave us the power to choose, and that he won't condemn us for an earing or tattoo or something of the like.
like this analogy: i love my boyfriend with all of my heart, and it doesn't matter what he does to his body, i will still love him. i think it is the same with God.

[ancabanca]

Jesus was pierced (by a spear)....

why cant we :D
if it's by a spear... sure... same rules apply :) :bfro:

[ancabanca]

maybe a little off topic... but just something interesting that I came across this week (please PLEASE don't take it the wrong way, just sharing as an FYI, what I have discovered)... we were volunteering with Samaritan's Purse, for Operation Christmas Child, and we were on the shoe box line to sort through the boxes and remove any items that had been accidentally included, and that are not appropriate. We were told that we have to remove all the cosmetics, because in some of the countries that these shoe boxes are being shipped to, make-up is associated with harlotry. Not in all, just in some... isn't that so interesting? It really surprised me at first.

[PaulaFoghisx0]

i believe that God will love anyone no matter what is on or in their body. i have 6 piercings in my ear, and i've once pierced my nose and my bellybutton twice. i understand why it would be seen as a severe alteration that was not intended by God, but i think that God gave us the power to choose, and that he won't condemn us for an earing or tattoo or something of the like.
like this analogy: i love my boyfriend with all of my heart, and it doesn't matter what he does to his body, i will still love him. i think it is the same with God.

i don't believe it's the same with God. I think he cares. We are the TEMPLE OF CHRIST and CHRIST lives in us..
i think we should use our energy and our body MORE for GOD than our own desires or people's desires.

[RubenC]

i believe that we should be content with what God gave us in terms of looks and so on..... and why would we want to alter what God has created?

Its like trying to tamper with a great work of art.....

[carmen1982]

i got earings and i belive there is nothing wrong with them. :) and yes yes I am a newborn Christian.

You go girl, me too:)

[mary1984]

You go girl, me too:)
:) well 4 me is not a sin and my boyfriend loves them. I think ppl who do not like should keep that rule 4 themselves and that;'s fine with me . but when they do judge me and point fingers without even knowing me I do have a problem with that. o well . fiecare cu ciorba lui i guess.

[Cyborg Dragon]

There's many christian women who have earings like my mother, so it doesn't seem piercing is a sin. However, even if piercing and tattooing is not a sin. I have to admit sometimes people take it to extremes that is borderline disturbing. Like some have almost 100 piercings on their face alone.

[moe2006]

Cyborg. Allow me to correct you, brother. NOTHING is a sin anymore. Look around you... it's normal now to see gay everywhere and it is normal for people to sleep around. Ask the sinners if they're Christians and 99% of the time, you'll get a "Yes".

Just something to keep in mind. I believe tattoos and piercings are both sins...

I mean some girls are too lazy to throw on a batic, but they'll apply makeup and take time to put their earrings on. :wall2:

[brunetziku]

Jesus was pierced (by a spear)....

why cant we :D

very good sense of humor , probably you don`t realize one thing...

but yea.. sick ppl do that..

[lil_chickita715]

To be honest I don't think that having your ears pierced is a sin. I don't believe that people should go overboard with piercings though.

[moe2006]

To be honest I don't think that having your ears pierced is a sin. I don't believe that people should go overboard with piercings though.
so we could pierce ourselves as long as it's not overboard? I guess that means we can drink, but not too much; kiss, but not too much; have sex but not to much; cuss, but not too much... get my point? :wall2:

I'm glad u said "I don't think" which is obvious that it's your opinion and not even close to fact.

[rbrie]

so we could pierce ourselves as long as it's not overboard? I guess that means we can drink, but not too much; kiss, but not too much; have sex but not to much; cuss, but not too much... get my point? :wall2:

I'm glad u said "I don't think" which is obvious that it's your opinion and not even close to fact.

you're saying that there is no mediation, there is a middle ground in things that we do and there is going overboard, so in the case of jewelery i shouldn't wear my wedding band as that is going overboard, God forbid that i wear any jewelry as wearing a wedding band and having a ring on each finger is the same,

i thought i would reply in sarcasm because in ALL the posts you reply to you use sarcasm STOP USING SARCASM and try to argue constructively, sarcasm is ok sometimes but not all the time!

[Elle_Rose2]

so we could pierce ourselves as long as it's not overboard? I guess that means we can drink, but not too much; kiss, but not too much; have sex but not to much; cuss, but not too much... get my point? :wall2:

I'm glad u said "I don't think" which is obvious that it's your opinion and not even close to fact.


what the heck happened to u? did someone brain washed u?

[Peacemaker]

hmmm....ive overlooked this thread many times, but maybe ill throw in my two cents worth.

[lil_chickita715]

so we could pierce ourselves as long as it's not overboard? I guess that means we can drink, but not too much; kiss, but not too much; have sex but not to much; cuss, but not too much... get my point? :wall2:

I'm glad u said "I don't think" which is obvious that it's your opinion and not even close to fact.
No I don't get your point . You can't compare piercings to the other things that u mentioned they just don't fit all under one category.

[KrazyEuro]

Leviticus 19:28
" 'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.

[rednobodyv]

its ok, Allah and Buddah accepts it.

[Crazy Babe]

i find piercing okay. i have both my ears pierced since i'm a girl, and there's nothing bad n it. i am also planning on getting two more piercings this week one in my tongue and the other in my belly button.

[PaulaFoghisx0]

If you love Jesus.. you'll know what to do.. pierce or dont pierce.

[rednobodyv]

If you love Jesus.. you'll know what to do.. dont pierce.

thre we go.

[moe2006]

i find piercing okay. i have both my ears pierced since i'm a girl, and there's nothing bad n it. i am also planning on getting two more piercings this week one in my tongue and the other in my belly button.
so just because you have your ears pierced, it's ok?

So if I go clubbing, pick up some girls and do the "dirty", is it ok: just because I'm doing it?

I know it might not be a perfect comparison, but I work with people that think that way. They think that it's not a sin because they live in denial.