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Cristina16
03-16-2004, 03:45 AM
Can I go to church with my son if he's not baptized? Can i have him baptized if i'm not married?

Olgutza
03-16-2004, 05:50 AM
you can go to church with whomever you choose. :baby:

Cristina16
03-16-2004, 04:24 PM
yeah but i heard that it was a sin if i take him to church if he's not baptized. I wanted to know if it was true.

cori4u
03-16-2004, 04:28 PM
how old is your son?

SaintJoe69
03-16-2004, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by Cristina16
yeah but i heard that it was a sin if i take him to church if he's not baptized. I wanted to know if it was true.

Um, who have you been hanging around and has been lying to you? :scratch:

cori4u
03-16-2004, 06:48 PM
see i was confused about that too, but saintjoe do you guys baptize your kids at a young age? i mean why would he need to be baptized. i know asking the wrong person but she isnt on so i was just wondering if you knew.

electroclashh
03-16-2004, 06:53 PM
UM I DONT THINK ITS BAD TO GO TO UR CHURCH IF UR SON'S NOT BAPTIZED...AT MY CHURCH WE DONT BAPTIZE ANYONE UNTIL THEY ARE AT LEAST 16 SO I SUGGEST YOU SHOULD GO TO YOUR CHURCH WITH UR SON...GOOD EXPERIANCES :)

KrazyEuro
03-16-2004, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by SaintJoe69
Um, who have you been hanging around and has been lying to you? :scratch:

i wanna know that too. Church is not for the Righteous only, its for everyone! God invites everyone to His house! not only "righteous" people, John 3:17 "for christ came into this world, not to condemn it, but to save the world" he didnt come for the saved, he came for the unsaved! ALL is welcomed at church! and if your church dont allow it, i would question their reasonings for having a church to begin with. then i'd find a church that sings the song, "come just as you are, dont you hear, the spirits call, come just as you are, come and see, come RECIEVE, come and LIVE FOREVER, LIFE, EVERLASTING" and so forth! like Jesus said to lazarous in attempt to raise him from the dead in John 11. he said it with authority too not a soft voice, so please repeat after me in a loud voice and say


COME FORTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bfro:

Cristina16
03-17-2004, 12:33 AM
Well like at pentacostal church they have Binecuvintare. And i wanted to know if i could take him even though he didn't have one. My son is 2 months old. and I wanted to know if he can have one even though i'm not married.

Olgutza
03-17-2004, 01:35 AM
i've been told that the binecuvintare is just a dedication ceremony. baptism is a public proclamation to symbolize that you have received christ into your life, that is why it is done at a later age, when the teenager is capable of deciding for himself/herself. we can not receive christ for someone. it must be of our own free will. you should read saintjoe's thread on do babies go to heaven? i think it's located in the chit chat forum area.
:baby:

tenazrael
03-17-2004, 01:47 AM
Cristina16, don't worry about the binecuvintare..... there are only two things you should focus on.

1. That you have accepted Christ as your personal Saviour and you would like to serve and worship Him for the rest of your life. 2. If you aren't baptized, and you truly believe, then be baptized.

After those two... then raise your son in a Christian lifestyle and take him to church so that he may also accept Christ as his Saviour and one day be baptized also!
Just like KrazyEuro said, if that church doesn't accept you or him, then that church isn't a Christian church. Instead go to another church where you and your son can grow spiritually! I really pray that God blesses your life and your son's life.

ps. Remember you'll always have fellow brothers and sisters in Christ who are here for you! :amen:

Cristina16
03-17-2004, 03:01 AM
Thank you. I do believe that God sent his only begotton son to die on the cross for our sins. I want to to everything i can to have a Spirital life and for my son to have the same. God Bless you all.

65stang
03-19-2004, 04:21 PM
Cristina16. Your son is old enough to be baptized. It is supposed to be 6 weeks for a boy and 8 weeks for a girl before a mother and her child can attend church again. Have a binecuvintare for your son! BINECUVINTARE = BLESSING. You want to have your son to be blessed and all babies have the right to be blessed regardless of the mistakes of the parents. In one instance, a couple had a child out of wedlock and they gave him a binecuvintare at church. The pastors prayed for the baby but they didnt pray for the couple because of the sin they commited. The son was blessed regardless if the parents were blessed or not. If you really cared for your son, you would go along with it. Talk to your pastor about it and see what he says. If he doesnt want to baptize the child, then go to another pastor with some sense.

SaintJoe69
03-19-2004, 04:43 PM
Hmmm... it seems to me that if the pastor had some sense, and was truly a holy man of God, then he would bless the parents as well. Did Jesus not forgive Magdalena at the well for having previous husbands? She played a small role in the movie The Passion of The Christ, too.

65stang, I am glad that you came in here to give Cristina some advice after having read what Michelle9 said.

Cristini, continue to follow Jesus, and you will do fine.

65stang
03-19-2004, 04:49 PM
i didnt come in here because i care of what michelle thinks. i have never seen these threads before and i was interested when michelle mentioned them so i came here to see what they are all about. i refused to respond to the other question because i knew no one would like my response.

65stang
03-19-2004, 04:51 PM
and to your reply about the pastor having sense, there is a consequence for everything you do. why should he accept the sins of the couple. It is up to God to bless them if he chooses to.

Cristina16
03-21-2004, 06:14 PM
I do care about my son, for him to be blessed don't his father and I have to be married? I know that he can be blessed because he's already 2 and a half months. But i don't know if the pastor will bless him if i'm not married.

SaintJoe69
03-21-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Cristina16
I do care about my son, for him to be blessed don't his father and I have to be married? I know that he can be blessed because he's already 2 and a half months. But i don't know if the pastor will bless him if i'm not married.

If this is something you really feel the need to do, as Tenazrael said it isn't necessary, then find a church that will do it. It's not that hard, at least I would hope not. If the churches and the pastors where you are attempting to get your son "blessed" are not willing to do this, then I would reconsider attending another church. Why attend a church that does not believe in the blessing of children? I would question their other beliefs, too, if something as simple as this is impossible for them to accept and perform.
:scratch:

Cristina16
04-01-2004, 02:33 AM
yes that id true. But i haven't been to chruch for a while so i'll have to go and talk to the pastor. Thank you.

whoRu
04-01-2004, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by Cristina16
Well like at pentacostal church they have Binecuvintare. And i wanted to know if i could take him even though he didn't have one. My son is 2 months old. and I wanted to know if he can have one even though i'm not married.

Totally... A dedication is just that... You're letting the church know that you are dedicating your child to the Lord... and at the same time, you are asking your church to help you out in this cause.. To help raise your child as a blessing for the Lord... After all, we're a family... We should all help out .... Whether through prayers or through a more intimate way

A dedication is where you're publicly entrusting your child into God's hands (it doesn't matter at what age it's done.. I've been to churches where 13 and 14 year olds were being dedicated.. Even a 45 year old son can have his 70 yr. old grandma dedicated)....

It's a sad day when the church refuses to help the individual who is dedicating their child to the Lord :nono:

KrazyEuro
04-01-2004, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by 65stang
and to your reply about the pastor having sense, there is a consequence for everything you do. why should he accept the sins of the couple. It is up to God to bless them if he chooses to.

you have a twisted mind when it comes down to what you just said right here...the pastors shouldnt be the one punishing anybody for the sins committed, leave that up to God!!! just like Jesus blessed the thief on the cross, why shouldnt the couple have the blessings? it doesnt work the way you want it to work, God doesnt forgive and let the pastors handle with the punishments...no no no, God Forgives and he takes care of the situation...as a pastor, you do what you are called to do, lead people to Christ!! dont push them away because of a mistake that was done! if Jesus would've done that, you think we would be right here right now prasing his name??? we make mistakes daily in our lives, yet jesus Still embraces us!! and yet we're here figuring out a way to hold a mistake against someone! Jesus gave an example of this...a man owed a king lots of money, and the king whiped the debth away, and that dude had a servant who owed him barley anything and he had that servant thrown into prison! and when the king found out, he had that dude beaten and thrown into prison as well, him and his family!! the king, (jesus christ) forgave us of our debths, we too should forgive others or he will not forgive us!! God is AWEsoME!! he deserves all praise and Glory!!!! God is AWESOME!!!! praise and Glory be to our Lord God Almighty!!!!

Michelle9
04-01-2004, 09:38 AM
I agree 100%

I wish we embraced the sinner more rather then doing what "allot" of the Christians do today.... They see that you fell and they don't try to make it better they go tell one person, and that person tells another person and on and on and if that wasn't enough they see that you've fallen into this hole and you can't quite find your way out and to make things worse they try to put this big rock over that hole to make it even harder for you to climb out...very very sad...I don't believe Jesus would have done it that way...I think he would accept "anyone" who would come to him with a sincere heart and confessed their sins...."anyone" and I don't believe he would dig your hole even deeper he would actually help you climb out...

Olgutza
04-01-2004, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Michelle9
I agree 100%

I wish we embraced the sinner more rather then doing what "allot" of the Christians do today.... They see that you fell and they don't try to make it better they go tell one person, and that person tells another person and on and on and if that wasn't enough they see that you've fallen into this hole and you can't quite find your way out and to make things worse they try to put this big rock over that hole to make it even harder for you to climb out...very very sad...I don't believe Jesus would have done it that way...I think he would accept "anyone" who would come to him with a sincere heart and confessed their sins...."anyone" and I don't believe he would dig your hole even deeper he would actually help you climb out...

True. Give a Romanian a shovel, and they'll dig that hole deeper for you with their gossip. Some will even take the shovel and whack you on the back of the head when you're not looking. :nono:

:baby:

Olgutza
04-01-2004, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by KrazyEuro
you have a twisted mind when it comes down to what you just said right here...the pastors shouldnt be the one punishing anybody for the sins committed, leave that up to God!!! just like Jesus blessed the thief on the cross, why shouldnt the couple have the blessings? it doesnt work the way you want it to work, God doesnt forgive and let the pastors handle with the punishments...no no no, God Forgives and he takes care of the situation...as a pastor, you do what you are called to do, lead people to Christ!! dont push them away because of a mistake that was done! if Jesus would've done that, you think we would be right here right now prasing his name??? we make mistakes daily in our lives, yet jesus Still embraces us!! and yet we're here figuring out a way to hold a mistake against someone! Jesus gave an example of this...a man owed a king lots of money, and the king whiped the debth away, and that dude had a servant who owed him barley anything and he had that servant thrown into prison! and when the king found out, he had that dude beaten and thrown into prison as well, him and his family!! the king, (jesus christ) forgave us of our debths, we too should forgive others or he will not forgive us!! God is AWEsoME!! he deserves all praise and Glory!!!! God is AWESOME!!!! praise and Glory be to our Lord God Almighty!!!!

:amen: I concur. :baby:

Michelle9
04-01-2004, 09:49 AM
HEHEH Very funny olgutza yet very sad because it's so true...

DRAGANGT
04-01-2004, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Cristina16
Well like at pentacostal church they have Binecuvintare. And i wanted to know if i could take him even though he didn't have one. My son is 2 months old. and I wanted to know if he can have one even though i'm not married.


Why do you feel, that you need to take your son to a binecuvintare. That does not get hime saved, It's to pray for God's blessing over the child. He has to make his own decision to follow christ.

Olgutza
04-01-2004, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by DRAGANGT
Why do you feel, that you need to take your son to a binecuvintare. That does not get hime saved, It's to pray for God's blessing over the child. He has to make his own decision to follow christ.

Depending upon their ages, children can not decide to follow Christ on their own. This binecuvintare is a dedication ceremony, to publicly show that you are putting your faith that your child's soul will be in the hands of God until he/she is old enough to make that decision on their own. That is my opinion.
:baby:

SuoBella
04-01-2004, 11:15 AM
Church isn't a showcase for saints, it's a hospital for sinners

KrazyEuro
04-01-2004, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Crazy4Christ
Church isn't a showcase for saints, it's a hospital for sinners

why do i concur 100%??? i donno but i do!! that was awesome!! never heard it like that before, im gonna steal ur line thank you!! :bfro:

iamv
04-01-2004, 12:30 PM
"Give a Romanian a shovel, and they'll dig that hole deeper for you with their gossip. Some will even take the shovel and whack you on the back of the head when you're not looking. "
I couldnt have said that better....and krazyeuro, olgutza and michelle..i support your opinions... GB us all...!:amen:

Michelle9
04-01-2004, 12:33 PM
Crazy4Christ - Very well said....and how true =)

SaintJoe69
04-01-2004, 04:38 PM
Hmmm... I better jump on the bandwagon and say I concur... otherwise, someone will try to correct me for not concurring.
:D

65stang
04-01-2004, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by KrazyEuro
you have a twisted mind when it comes down to what you just said right here...the pastors shouldnt be the one punishing anybody for the sins committed, leave that up to God!!! just like Jesus blessed the thief on the cross, why shouldnt the couple have the blessings? it doesnt work the way you want it to work, God doesnt forgive and let the pastors handle with the punishments...no no no, God Forgives and he takes care of the situation...as a pastor, you do what you are called to do, lead people to Christ!! dont push them away because of a mistake that was done! if Jesus would've done that, you think we would be right here right now prasing his name??? we make mistakes daily in our lives, yet jesus Still embraces us!! and yet we're here figuring out a way to hold a mistake against someone! Jesus gave an example of this...a man owed a king lots of money, and the king whiped the debth away, and that dude had a servant who owed him barley anything and he had that servant thrown into prison! and when the king found out, he had that dude beaten and thrown into prison as well, him and his family!! the king, (jesus christ) forgave us of our debths, we too should forgive others or he will not forgive us!! God is AWEsoME!! he deserves all praise and Glory!!!! God is AWESOME!!!! praise and Glory be to our Lord God Almighty!!!!

you just saved us a bunch of tax money. you have just eliminated our whole judicial system. lets not punish anyone for anything they did. let God do it.

65stang
04-01-2004, 04:59 PM
and its not a punishment. the church has rules. i dont think its fair that a person can break any rule and expect to be treated royally

65stang
04-01-2004, 05:00 PM
and i am not implying that Cristina16 is like that. she expects to get mixed reactions. I just wish her the best. i think she should take her child to get baptized.

65stang
04-01-2004, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Crazy4Christ
Church isn't a showcase for saints, it's a hospital for sinners

I dont concur. I agree, but only to a certain extent.

Church is not a showcase for saints because not one single church member is a saint.
Church is a hospital for sinners. Church is there to teach people what is right and what is wrong. Its not there to comfort sinners and make them feel better about their sins. People go to church to worship the Lord and learn about him. Its not a place to receive pity.

What would be the purpose of a church that is fine with any of their members breaking the most extreme rules. Child bearing out of wedlock is not an ordinary Christian thing. It is frowned upon in a Christian society and its up to God to forgive her for her sins. For a church to accept her as an ordinary member with pity and no shame whatsoever, would leave that door wide open for any other teenager in the same church to do the same thing.

Olgutza
04-01-2004, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by 65stang
I dont concur. I agree, but only to a certain extent.

Church is not a showcase for saints because not one single church member is a saint.
Church is a hospital for sinners. Church is there to teach people what is right and what is wrong. Its not there to comfort sinners and make them feel better about their sins. People go to church to worship the Lord and learn about him. Its not a place to receive pity.

What would be the purpose of a church that is fine with any of their members breaking the most extreme rules. Child bearing out of wedlock is not an ordinary Christian thing. It is frowned upon in a Christian society and its up to God to forgive her for her sins. For a church to accept her as an ordinary member with pity and no shame whatsoever, would leave that door wide open for any other teenager in the same church to do the same thing.

Are you sure about this first part? After reading these threads and postings, it appears that people merely attend church so that they can judge others on what they are wearing (ie. jeans, baticuri, etc.), and so that they can gossip about others online.

As for the second part, what is wrong with a church that accepts sinners? Goodness. Your church must be the one filled with all the saints already. :nono:

:baby:

Michelle9
04-02-2004, 08:31 AM
++++++++ORIGINALLY POSTED BY 65STANG+++++++++

I dont concur. I agree, but only to a certain extent.

Church is not a showcase for saints because not one single church member is a saint.
Church is a hospital for sinners. Church is there to teach people what is right and what is wrong. Its not there to comfort sinners and make them feel better about their sins. People go to church to worship the Lord and learn about him. Its not a place to receive pity.

What would be the purpose of a church that is fine with any of their members breaking the most extreme rules. Child bearing out of wedlock is not an ordinary Christian thing. It is frowned upon in a Christian society and its up to God to forgive her for her sins. For a church to accept her as an ordinary member with pity and no shame whatsoever, would leave that door wide open for any other teenager in the same church to do the same thing.

+++++++++WRONG+++++++++

When the women that was living in adultery came to Jesus what did he say? You can follow me but you have to walk behind everyone else because you've sinned....NO he said " Go and sin no more"


In John 8:1-11, the apostle John records that Jesus had come into the temple and was teaching. As He was teaching the Scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery, taken in the very act. They tested Him saying "Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned, But what do You say?" Jesus made a clear point in saying "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first." When all of her accusers had left, being convicted of their own sin, He asked the woman "Where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?" When she answered "No one, Lord", He said to her "Neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more." The Lord forgave her of the sin of adultery. Matthew 9:6 tells us He had the power to do so. If Jesus was willing to not condemn this woman caught in the very act of adultery, would He not also be willing to forgive us our sins?

Stang man if you're going to cast a stone or say to someone you go sit in the back of the church cause your not worthy that's wrong....

When my brother fell into this sin before he got married he went straight to the pastor and confessed....Let me tell you something Stang if it werent for the wise pastor that we have and the people who embraced the sinner and pulled him up instead of putting him down my brother and sis-in-law would probably not be attending church right now.....Man, i just got one thing to say to you be very careful not to be a stumbling block to anyone who needs to get closer to God...

65stang
04-02-2004, 01:20 PM
She can go to church all she wants. Im saying that she shouldnt expect the royal treatment. I know of a very very good friend that was in the same situation. He decided to get married but they werent allowed to have a church service. Anyways, you have just missed the point of my argument. I dont feel like retyping everything again.

Olgutza
04-02-2004, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by 65stang
She can go to church all she wants. Im saying that she shouldnt expect the royal treatment. I know of a very very good friend that was in the same situation. He decided to get married but they werent allowed to have a church service. Anyways, you have just missed the point of my argument. I dont feel like retyping everything again.

:topicoff: Michelle9, you can quote a posting by going to that posting, and then clicking on the "QUOTE" button on the top right corner of that posting. You can go back and "EDIT" only your own postings, unless you are a moderator.

I don't think people come to church expecting "royal treatment", and if that's your reason for going, then I suggest you change your mindset about church. :nono:
:baby:

spaGhetes
04-02-2004, 01:55 PM
ROYAL treatment? What exactly are you alluding to in that statement? I don't think that was what Cristina had in mind...she seemed like she genuinely wanted a blessing for her son that regardless of the situation should be prayed upon...anyhow I know you agreed with that too BUT on condemning Cristina you have a slippery slope arguement: if we allow this, then the whole church will be full of sinners...but WHO are WE to allow anything...in the Bible it says for us to look at the plank in our own eye before we look at the splinter in our neighbor's...an overt "sinner" in the Romo church is not allowed to participate and must sit in the back, but you tell me how great does that person feel sitting back there, shunned?...do you think they can truly enjoy a service and let their heart sing out to the Lord?! I don't know I think that's where American churches have us beat, although I've been brought up in and still go to the Romo church

65stang
04-02-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by 65stang
and i am not implying that Cristina16 is like that. she expects to get mixed reactions. I just wish her the best. i think she should take her child to get baptized.

this previous post clearly states that I dont think Cristina expects any royal treatment
You guys are the ones thinking she should get treated royally. if I was in Cristinas shoes, i wouldnt expect anyone to treat me royally either.

65stang
04-02-2004, 02:04 PM
If im so wrong, why dont you guys tell me how she should be treated?

Olgutza
04-02-2004, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by 65stang
If im so wrong, why dont you guys tell me how she should be treated?

Jesus would know how to treat a person looking for help, and so would a follower of Jesus, one who claims to be a Christian.
:baby:

65stang
04-02-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Olgutza
Jesus would know how to treat a person looking for help, and so would a follower of Jesus, one who claims to be a Christian.
:baby:
are you gonna answer the question?

Michelle9
04-02-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by 65stang
She can go to church all she wants. Im saying that she shouldnt expect the royal treatment. I know of a very very good friend that was in the same situation. He decided to get married but they werent allowed to have a church service. Anyways, you have just missed the point of my argument. I dont feel like retyping everything again.


Stang my brother didn't have he's wedding in church either it was just among friends and family....My whole point is we should accept sinners who are ready to come clean, confess, and start a new life with Jesus Christ...:bsmile:


Olgutza- Thanks, i did not know that till now :D

Olgutza
04-02-2004, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by 65stang
are you gonna answer the question?

If you don't know the answer, then I will have to ignore any of your previous postings. :D
:baby:

65stang
04-02-2004, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Olgutza
If you don't know the answer, then I will have to ignore any of your previous postings. :D
:baby:

I gave you my answer. You obviously dont agree with me. I want to hear your answer.

Michelle9
04-02-2004, 02:22 PM
Man, just think what she is feeling/thinking reading these posts...Sad!!!

61leumas
04-02-2004, 02:25 PM
yes and yes

65stang
04-02-2004, 02:32 PM
I am not trying to make her feel bad in any way.
I am just a strong believer that rules should be enforced.

Take royouth for example, if people broke all the rules and Cosmin decided to accept all of that? How far would this website be able to continue as a Christian website. If someone breaks a rule, they are banned or they are stripped of their priviledges. What you guys are saying is that rules shouldnt matter because Jesus forgives.

Michelle9
04-02-2004, 02:32 PM
Stang- I think she should be treated like everyone else....not alienated....And she needs more of our help to get out of this hole she doesn't need us to tell her or make her feel worse...I'm sure she already does...

65stang
04-02-2004, 02:34 PM
Exactly my point. She should be treated like everyone else. If anyone else broke the rules, the same thing should be applied to them.

61leumas
04-02-2004, 02:35 PM
what rules...am i missing something?

Michelle9
04-02-2004, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by 65stang
I am not trying to make her feel bad in any way.
I am just a strong believer that rules should be enforced.

Take royouth for example, if people broke all the rules and Cosmin decided to accept all of that? How far would this website be able to continue as a Christian website. If someone breaks a rule, they are banned or they are stripped of their priviledges. What you guys are saying is that rules shouldnt matter because Jesus forgives.


Stang......Thank God with God if you break a rule you can confess yourself and be cleansed....THANK GOD!!!!!!!!THANK GOD!!!!
:angel4:

65stang
04-02-2004, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by 61leumas
what rules...am i missing something?

The rules in the Bible are the rules of the church.

Michelle9
04-02-2004, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by 65stang
Exactly my point. She should be treated like everyone else. If anyone else broke the rules, the same thing should be applied to them.

You totaly missed my point there....

61leumas
04-02-2004, 02:37 PM
i mean what rules did the poor girl break?

Michelle9
04-02-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by 65stang
The rules in the Bible are the rules of the church.



I'm curious what are the rules in the bible????????Tell me what the bible tells us to do when a sinner falls ????:confused:

61leumas
04-02-2004, 02:40 PM
help them up

61leumas
04-02-2004, 02:43 PM
true that

Michelle9
04-02-2004, 02:44 PM
That's right!!!

and you know something.....I'm stopping here because i fear this gril will come here and read all the stupid comments and I dont want to cause anyone to stumble......I believe Jesus has open arms for ANYONE who wants to come to him....and i DO NOT believe Jesus would make you feel worse...No way!

61leumas
04-02-2004, 02:50 PM
huh? you lost me

65stang
04-02-2004, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Michelle9
I'm curious what are the rules in the bible????????Tell me what the bible tells us to do when a sinner falls ????:confused:
Help them up!
Would you really be helping her or anyone else in the church by completely ignoring what had happened?

no sin goes unpunished.

61leumas
04-02-2004, 02:53 PM
ok we heard that already

65stang
04-02-2004, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by 61leumas
ok we heard that already

If you look up, i deleted it. i wanted her to reply to your post first.

61leumas
04-02-2004, 02:59 PM
oh thanks i c...she\ still ain't replying

SaintJoe69
04-02-2004, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by 65stang
Help them up!
Would you really be helping her or anyone else in the church by completely ignoring what had happened?

no sin goes unpunished.

Leave it up to the you to want to be the judge, the jury, and the executioner in each individual's life. :rolleyes::sly:

whoRu
04-02-2004, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by 65stang

Would you really be helping her or anyone else in the church by completely ignoring what had happened?

no sin goes unpunished.

If it's a Christian church, then we should do what Jesus would do.. Not like the pharisee's who would pick up the stone to stone the woman.. Even though that was the rule of the law... Be Christ-like.. and forgive... and accept.. not because of what they've done.. but because of their potential.. Jesus said, "go and sin no more.'' He saw that the sinners' potential was to repent...

I agree, sin does not go unpunished.. But it can be forgiven.. Those are the TRUE rules of the bible.. :rules:

swtlips
04-02-2004, 06:11 PM
It's like this...Don't look down on anyone UNLESS you're HELPING them UP!!! :screwy: I know some people who need to learn that :nono: jeez.

Cristina16
04-05-2004, 04:20 AM
I'm sorry i haven't been on here to read what you guys said, but now i had a chance and i really don't know what to say. God is a God of mercy and a loving God. So most of what people do in their lives that are bad he forgives if they repent. Well I don't think that he will ever forgive me for what i have done in my life. I mean i pray and cry out to him to forgive me but i just don't think that he will. I know that some people think that i should be punished but haven't i been punished enough? The father of my son doesn't want to take care of him and i feel like i'm the only one who is there to take care of him. Sometimes i think that he can change and that he will grow up and take over his responsibilitys as a father but i don't think he ever will. I'm going to end up alone raiseing a child by myself. And i don't think it's fair to my son because he needs his father in his life. I want him to take care of him and to feed him and to change him, but all he knows how to do is play games and to watch T.V. and movies. I pray for him and this family that eveything would be alright , but i think someday think will get better but i don't know for sure. I feel sad and deppressed and i feel like i just want to cry my eyes out. But i can't i have to be strong and to be strong for my son. I have to go on living my life like everything id just fine in my life. But it's not. Because i don't have God in my Life as mush as he used to be. I know that he is there and he is looking out for me, but i always feel like there is something missing and it is His Love. Well it's getting pretty late so i'll have to finish 2morrow. Thankyou and God Bless.

Michelle9
04-06-2004, 08:49 AM
Hey Cristina,

I’m sure that if you confessed your sin and repented you have been forgiven...Now you need to concentrate on your new life with Jesus and your baby...
Just so you know it will not be easy there will be hard times ahead but now you have Jesus to walk with you each step of the way.
Don't look to the right or left always look up that's where all your help, comfort, love, etc...comes from.
I have a website I’d like you to check out.
www.family.org

God Bless you!

KrazyEuro
04-06-2004, 08:52 AM
1 john 1:9

9. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


like michelle nicely said! and its true!

2 corinthians 5:17

17. Therefore, if any one is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has passed away, behold, the new has come.

KrazyEuro
04-06-2004, 09:01 AM
psalm 103:11-12

11. For as the heavens are high above the earth, so great is his steadfast love toward those who fear him;
12. as far as the east is from the west, so far does he remove our transgressions from us.


Romans 6:14

14. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under law, but under grace.

Isa. 43:25

25. "I, I am He who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins.



1 corinthians 15:55-58

55. "O death, where is thy victory? O death, where is thy sting?"
56. The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.
57. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58. Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that in the Lord your labor is not in vain.

Michelle9
04-06-2004, 09:12 AM
Perfect!!!!!!!!!!

These are all perfect scriptures that shows everyone that Jesus forgives and unlike humans once he forgives a sin he does not remember it again.... it is gone forever...Isn't that amazing?

Humans usually always try to remind you about all your sins to make you feel small and weak and to be a stumbling block...But not Jesus he wants he's people to be confident, strong Christians, and you can't be that if you keep feeling sorry for yourself...



P.s. great scriptures KrazyEuro.... by the way it is said that we will have to answer to God for everything we do...and I believe even for what we write on these posts we will need to answer to God...Now it is to our choosing if we choose to uplift someone or cast with stones...I'm happy you're not casting stones and doing the opposite.

KrazyEuro
04-08-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Michelle9
P.s. great scriptures KrazyEuro.... by the way it is said that we will have to answer to God for everything we do...and I believe even for what we write on these posts we will need to answer to God...Now it is to our choosing if we choose to uplift someone or cast with stones...I'm happy you're not casting stones and doing the opposite.

i agree with a bunch of things you just said, accept this final thing, i guess this is just difference of opinions, i dont think we'll need to answer for the things we've done, as christians, believers in Christ, we will not be condemned for what we've done, or will do, as christians though, not as "so-called christians"... we dont purposely go out and get drunk, have sex, lie, do things like that, as being controlled by the natural form of the body, we fall into this, but once the supernatural form takes over, this takes place at the ressurrection of the Dead when Jesus Returns, we wont worry about sin, and God will not hold us condemned for the sins we've done, our judgement is here on earth right now, however, when we reign in heaven, we'll come back and Judge the rest who did not choose to believe like we believed, this is what i belieive to be true, we're not gonna be held under condemnation for the sins we've done, just my opinion :bfro:

Suzi
04-08-2004, 02:17 PM
DID YOU MEAN TO SAY, binecuvintare? daca nu e binecuvintat baiatul tau? yeah maybe!

Rosie cheeks
08-11-2004, 06:40 PM
DID YOU MEAN TO SAY, binecuvintare? daca nu e binecuvintat baiatul tau? yeah maybe!

yeah thats what i was thinking too

DRAGANGT
08-11-2004, 07:20 PM
Depending upon their ages, children can not decide to follow Christ on their own. This binecuvintare is a dedication ceremony, to publicly show that you are putting your faith that your child's soul will be in the hands of God until he/she is old enough to make that decision on their own. That is my opinion.
:baby:

Me and you are on the same page here just put it in different words