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miezu23
12-25-2004, 01:35 PM
from http://www.letgodbetrue.com/
Taking an evergreen tree, putting it in your house, decorating it with lights, sitting in the dark, and adoring it to Christmas carols is spiritual adultery. You profess to love Jesus, but you do so with the mementos and techniques of other lovers the world and pagan religion. You are not content with Christ's pure gospel for it has no Mass of Christ. You have added the world's seductions to keep you happy in your marriage to Christ. He is highly offended at your whorish ways.
Nygel
12-25-2004, 01:59 PM
Do you believe that personally?
The Bible is the collection of 66 inspired books from the LORD Jehovah, the Creator of heaven and earth. These inspired writings by about 40 different human penmen contain the wisdom of the universe that God intended for the human race. They exceed all the wisdom of all men as much as light exceeds darkness (Ps 19:7-11; 119:98-100,130; Is 8:20; I Cor 2:6-16; I Tim 6:20; II Pet 1:19).
It was written supernaturally to only reveal truth to those who approach it with reverent fear and careful study (Is 66:1-2; Matt 13:10-17). God intended it for the simply saints who trust in Him (Matt 11:25-27; I Cor 1:26-31). Men who approach it with haughty confidence in their own learning or wisdom will be confused and destroyed by it (Rom 1:20-27; I Cor 1:18-21; 3:18-20).
Every word of God is pure, and man is to live by every single word (Pr 30:5; Luke 4:4). Not a single word or verse should be discarded, neglected, or rejected (Rom 15:4; II Tim 3:16-17). Every fact and every commandment pertaining to every subject should be valued as absolutely perfect knowledge, and every contrary opinion should be hated (Ps 119:113,128; 139:21-22).
Do you believe the above...which is another quote from their website?
Who sings christmas carols to there tree? What does having a tree have to do with worshipping the sun god? I don't personally have a tree, but I don't consider it to be wrong.
livin_4_Christ1
12-26-2004, 01:39 AM
from http://www.letgodbetrue.com/
Taking an evergreen tree, putting it in your house, decorating it with lights, sitting in the dark, and adoring it to Christmas carols is spiritual adultery. You profess to love Jesus, but you do so with the mementos and techniques of other lovers the world and pagan religion. You are not content with Christ's pure gospel for it has no Mass of Christ. You have added the world's seductions to keep you happy in your marriage to Christ. He is highly offended at your whorish ways.
hmm....wow...i totally disagree..and you know what..bringing a tree in the house helps me remember why we celebrate Christmas...it takes my eyes off the gifts..and puts them on my heart. I'm sorry to say..but I disagree 1000% with that.
SaintJoe69
12-26-2004, 07:55 PM
from http://www.letgodbetrue.com/
Taking an evergreen tree, putting it in your house, decorating it with lights, sitting in the dark, and adoring it to Christmas carols is spiritual adultery. You profess to love Jesus, but you do so with the mementos and techniques of other lovers the world and pagan religion. You are not content with Christ's pure gospel for it has no Mass of Christ. You have added the world's seductions to keep you happy in your marriage to Christ. He is highly offended at your whorish ways.
What is your opinion on this topic? I can sit here and refute the website, just like I can do any other website that may have similar articles and opinions, but it does not satisfy me to debate with a website. Please tell us your opinions on this website and their claims, so that I may enjoy a personal debate. Be careful, though, because you know how I like to twist your people's word's around, as they claim. ;)
miezu23
12-27-2004, 01:32 AM
What is your opinion on this topic? I can sit here and refute the website, just like I can do any other website that may have similar articles and opinions, but it does not satisfy me to debate with a website. Please tell us your opinions on this website and their claims, so that I may enjoy a personal debate. Be careful, though, because you know how I like to twist your people's word's around, as they claim. ;)
my point to this thread is to show how people who belive in a higher power look at things in sutch a twisted way.
from http://www.letgodbetrue.com/
Taking an evergreen tree, putting it in your house, decorating it with lights, sitting in the dark, and adoring it to Christmas carols is spiritual adultery. You profess to love Jesus, but you do so with the mementos and techniques of other lovers the world and pagan religion. You are not content with Christ's pure gospel for it has no Mass of Christ. You have added the world's seductions to keep you happy in your marriage to Christ. He is highly offended at your whorish ways.
OK im my opinion i think that this site doesnt cover the hole bible only the old testament .........
So ill be nice and take the first exemple on this page -->http://www.letgodbetrue.com/BibleTopics/Holidays/WeDontCelebrateChristmas.htm
... the LORD condemns using pagan religious practices in His worship (Deut 12:29-31). lets go over this easyly what does christmas stand for
Christ - is Jesus
Mas- mas is a celebration
Christmas is a celebration of Jesus Christ and the born of Jesus Christ u know that ...............
Ok now lets go to ur page -->http://www.letgodbetrue.com/BibleTopics/Holidays/christmas-is-adultery.htm
ok lets take # 1
1. Adultery is horrible. When a woman gives her body and love to another man for intimate sexual pleasures, she terribly betrays her husband. He is defrauded by having his most personal and prized object treacherously shared with a competitor. Adultery is outrageously wicked (Lev 20:10; Num 5:11-31; Job 31:9-12; Pr 6:32-35).
This has nothing to do with bringing a christmas tree in the house so there is no point of even trying to explain it....
#2
2. Jealousy is the result. It is the anger, envy, and pain when something dear to you is given to another. It occurs intensely in a husband, when his wife gives her body and love to others. Adultery causes great jealousy, as Scripture and nature show (Num 5:11-31; Prov 6:32-35).
Now what does this have to do with christmas nothing its talking about jeoulisy ????? :screwy:
#3
3. God is Jealous. He created and saved His people from serving the devil to be His very own bride. He expects total adoration and perfect obedience. The first and great commandment is to love Him with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength. He will not share your love or interest with other things. His name is Jealous, and He burns in jealous rage when His people even flirt with anything else (Ex 20:3-5; 34:14; Deut 4:24; 6:15; 29:20; 32:16; Josh 24:19; Is 42:8; 48:11; I Cor 10:22).
By you puting a christmas tree in ur house ur showing ur love for Jesus Christ ..... in what way are u showing ur love........ well for christmas every one gets ready by cooking a lot of food, meeting with family, and when we do that in my family we pray have felowship and praise God for helping us this far.....
#4
4. God hates idols and icons. God condemned all idols, any graven image or likeness of any thing, and any devotion given to them, because He is jealous of any flirting or distraction by His chosen bride with the false gods of paganism. Their gods are bugs, trees, stones, and stars. He is the invisible Spirit of eternity. He does not want any other object getting even indirect attention. He even hated Moses' brass serpent (Ex 20:3-5; Deut 4:15-26; 5:8; II Kgs 18:3-4; Is 40:25).
Well what goes on a christmas tree First on top ...... A STAR- Which represents the sign that God used to show "majilor" where to go........
Lights- they represent the stars and all the lights represent all the light that was at the time when The Angel showed up ........ also a christmas tree is a form of a simbol of joy wich represents Jesus being born..........
Now this is what i think ......... i could be wrong but i think that this site as you can see from what i said above its totaly off...............
This site sounds like a "Martory Lui Iehova" they are the only ones that make their own bible of what ever they want and what they dont want they dont put it in.... I can go on and on about this but ill stop here hope this helps a little ........
P.S. (im not trying to be mean in answering this im only trying to get my point through clear no affence to anyone, if i affended anyone im sorry).....
Nygel
12-27-2004, 02:12 AM
my point to this thread is to show how people who belive in a higher power look at things in sutch a twisted way.
So basically your saying look at these people who believe christmas trees are wrong...look how twisted they are. But your telling us this, who most of us don't consider christmas trees to be bad. So in other words you don't consider us twisted? :scratch:
You know what I've realized so far? It's that religion is complex. There are so many issues and so many sides and so much material from all fields of study trying to prove or disprove...So why do you believe it to be impossible for there to exist a higher power?
my point to this thread is to show how people who belive in a higher power look at things in sutch a twisted way.
that is one person.
miezu23
01-01-2005, 09:31 PM
So basically your saying look at these people who believe christmas trees are wrong...look how twisted they are. But your telling us this, who most of us don't consider christmas trees to be bad. So in other words you don't consider us twisted? :scratch:
You know what I've realized so far? It's that religion is complex. There are so many issues and so many sides and so much material from all fields of study trying to prove or disprove...So why do you believe it to be impossible for there to exist a higher power?
there is no reason for me to belive it impossible, for there to be a higher power. there is no solid proof that ther is NO higher power, therfore i can't say that its impossible for a highpower to exist.
So basically your saying look at these people who believe christmas trees are wrong...look how twisted they are. But your telling us this, who most of us don't consider christmas trees to be bad. So in other words you don't consider us twisted?yes and no EX: there are christians whe belive a christmas tree in the house during christmas is bad, and if you look at his/her reasoning on why a christmas tree is bad, his/her reasoning will be either flawed or twisted or something else other than logical. the example with the tree is jest one exqamole but that formula works with other things that a beliver says is bad like money.
Nygel
01-01-2005, 11:57 PM
I do not consider money to be bad. Neither does the Bible. The Bible only speaks about the love of money as being the root of all evil.
(I Timothy 6:9-11)
"Those who crave to be rich soon begin to do all manner of wrong things to get money; things that hurt them, make them evil-minded, and plunge them into ruin and perdition. For the love of money is the first step towards all manner of evil: some have even turned away from God through this craving, and tortured their minds with regrets. But as for you, O man of God, run from all these things; and pursue right standing with God, faith, love, patience, and gentleness with others"
Or how bartleby.com defines the phrase "The love of money is the root of all evil."
-->All wrongdoing can be traced to an excessive attachment to material wealth. This saying comes from the writings of the Apostle Paul. It is sometimes shortened to Money is the root of all evil.
And the following quote is from this link http://www.true-wealth.com/content/cpt2/ii_1.htm
"The bottom line is that money, like technology, is spiritually neutral. It can be used for good or evil. God always deals with the heart and the motives of the use of money. If the motives are pure then the fruit can be very very good. Let's stop loving things and start loving people. That is the measure of true wealth!"
miezu23
01-02-2005, 01:08 AM
I do not consider money to be bad. Neither does the Bible. The Bible only speaks about the love of money as being the root of all evil.
(I Timothy 6:9-11)
"Those who crave to be rich soon begin to do all manner of wrong things to get money; things that hurt them, make them evil-minded, and plunge them into ruin and perdition. For the love of money is the first step towards all manner of evil: some have even turned away from God through this craving, and tortured their minds with regrets. But as for you, O man of God, run from all these things; and pursue right standing with God, faith, love, patience, and gentleness with others"
Or how bartleby.com defines the phrase "The love of money is the root of all evil."
-->All wrongdoing can be traced to an excessive attachment to material wealth. This saying comes from the writings of the Apostle Paul. It is sometimes shortened to Money is the root of all evil.
And the following quote is from this link http://www.true-wealth.com/content/cpt2/ii_1.htm
"The bottom line is that money, like technology, is spiritually neutral. It can be used for good or evil. God always deals with the heart and the motives of the use of money. If the motives are pure then the fruit can be very very good. Let's stop loving things and start loving people. That is the measure of true wealth!"
i gueess this thread can be both about money and the twisted thinking of unlogical people.
you saidAll wrongdoing can be traced to an excessive attachment to material wealth i see alot of people with that same exact idea, but if we stop and look around we will see that everything is attached to material wealth. the quote uses the word "excessive attachment" dose that mean that if one has an "exessive attatchment" to material welth hes evil? and if one has welth but is not "exessive attatched" to that wealth hes not evil?
miezu23
01-02-2005, 01:26 AM
"have you ever looked at the root of production?take a look at an electric generator and dare tell yourself that it was created by the muscular effort of unthinking brutes.Try to grow a seed of wheat without the knowledge left to you by men who ha to discover it for the first time. try to obtain youre food by meand of nothing but physical motion-and you'll learn tha man's mind is the root of all the goods produced and of all the wealth that ever existed.
"But you say that money is made by strong at the expense of the weak? What strenght do you mean? it is not the strenght of guns or muscles. Welth is the product of man's capacity to think. then is money made by the man who invents a motor at the expense of those who did not invent it? is money made by the intelligent at the expense of the fools?by the able at the expense of the incompetent?by the ambitious at the expense of the lazy?money is MADE-before it can be looted or mooched." this paragraph is from a book but i agree with it 100% by Ayn Rand
Nygel
01-02-2005, 08:02 PM
Basically anything in excess is bad. "Too much" means exactly that TOO much. Over the limit.
And concerning your second post. If a Worker, moocher, looter or whatever category they are in is attached to money TOO MUCH. Than yes that can lead wrongdoing.
miezu23
01-03-2005, 08:57 PM
Basically anything in excess is bad. "Too much" means exactly that TOO much. Over the limit.
And concerning your second post. If a Worker, moocher, looter or whatever category they are in is attached to money TOO MUCH. Than yes that can lead wrongdoing.
so, for example someone who is too mutch into worsheping god or in excess of normal worshiping is bad, with that i agree. being a worship fanatic is bad on more than jest one level.
Nygel
01-04-2005, 01:30 AM
anything in excess is by definition bad. But defining what is the limit and what is past the limit or excessive is another matter all together.
miezu23
01-05-2005, 02:27 PM
anything in excess is by definition bad. But defining what is the limit and what is past the limit or excessive is another matter all together.
so if bill gated dose not belive he has "too mutch" money he can acquire more I agree with that.
tucurel
12-12-2005, 07:17 PM
from http://www.letgodbetrue.com/
Taking an evergreen tree, putting it in your house, decorating it with lights, sitting in the dark, and adoring it to Christmas carols is spiritual adultery. You profess to love Jesus, but you do so with the mementos and techniques of other lovers the world and pagan religion. You are not content with Christ's pure gospel for it has no Mass of Christ. You have added the world's seductions to keep you happy in your marriage to Christ. He is highly offended at your whorish ways.
The opinion of this fellow is not relevant for Christianity. Apostle Paul tells in his letter to Romans that whoever considers the meat dedicated to idols as evil should not eat it. However, those who do not, should go ahead and enjoy it. Just because some other cultures have used the evergreen tree, that doesn't mean that Christmas is a hybrid of those cultures. The evergreen tree had a diferent function in those cultures. Also, the above-mentioned principle applies.
Nowhere in the Bible is the "Mass of Christ" being mentioned. If you try to bring "contradictions", please be careful in your selection process. Few things are more embarrasing than criticizing an aspect that you are not aware of (in this case Christianity, the Gsopel, Christ etc.)
jo neetz15
12-12-2005, 07:50 PM
i just went to the website, yep, its a jehovas witness site. they also claim that the pictures of jesus portray him as a transvestite and a homosexual, because he had long hair and a beard........not my words, theirs.
Steven!
12-12-2005, 08:40 PM
Wearing clothes is a sin because the people of Soddom and Gomorrah wore clothes and Adam and Eve were made naked so we can't wear close or we're whores.
cescu
12-12-2005, 10:02 PM
Taking an evergreen tree, putting it in your house, decorating it with lights, sitting in the dark, and adoring it to Christmas carols is spiritual adultery. You profess to love Jesus, but you do so with the mementos and techniques of other lovers – the world and pagan religion. You are not content with Christ's pure gospel – for it has no Mass of Christ. You have added the world's seductions to keep you happy in your marriage to Christ. He is highly offended at your whorish ways.
i dont get it. what thinking person does not recognize that there is a cultural as well as a spiritual aspect to Christmas? I clearly understand that the religious celebration of the birth of Christ is the deeper, truer, and in this sense the more real Christmas. But, the participation in the cultural activities of Christmas, so long as they are not in conflict with the faith, is in no way inconsistent with the message of Chrismas.
A christian celebrates the birth of Christ, the fulfillment of God's promises, and the promise of hope and, if they choose, go home to a nicely adorned Christmas tree and tear open their presents from friends and loved ones. There is a clear distinction, at least in my mind, between the two spheres. If there is some confusion in a man's mind over what Christmas is all about, then what he needs is an explaination of the Christmas story, not condemnation from people who ought to know better.
florin s.
aliec
12-12-2005, 10:40 PM
hmm....one of the reasons why we didnt put up any tree or christmas decorations
or could it be because we're lazy..... :bsmile:
nihilo
12-12-2005, 11:23 PM
from http://www.letgodbetrue.com/
Taking an evergreen tree, putting it in your house, decorating it with lights, sitting in the dark, and adoring it to Christmas carols is spiritual adultery. You profess to love Jesus, but you do so with the mementos and techniques of other lovers the world and pagan religion. You are not content with Christ's pure gospel for it has no Mass of Christ. You have added the world's seductions to keep you happy in your marriage to Christ. He is highly offended at your whorish ways.
if this isn't a cult, it could've fooled me. this is another of their 'beliefs':
We want our assemblies to copy the apostolic churches. We find no evidence for Sunday Schools, pianos, statues, flags, plays, or other inventions. We stress Bible reading and preaching, prayer, spiritual singing, thanksgiving, the Lords Supper, and fellowship.
these people are wacky! they will mock any bible translation other than the kjv, i've been in one of these churches before. it's pretty dang near what a cult is.
their view on christmas trees, etc. is stupid. just like their other views.
nihilo
12-12-2005, 11:42 PM
so they don't believe in pianos or instruments in church, but they have a website??? hmmmmmm, interesting.
they are WHACK!
pac0baby
12-12-2005, 11:42 PM
OK im my opinion i think that this site doesnt cover the hole bible only the old testament .........
So ill be nice and take the first exemple on this page -->http://www.letgodbetrue.com/BibleTopics/Holidays/WeDontCelebrateChristmas.htm
... the LORD condemns using pagan religious practices in His worship (Deut 12:29-31). lets go over this easyly what does christmas stand for
Christ - is Jesus
Mas- mas is a celebration
Christmas is a celebration of Jesus Christ and the born of Jesus Christ u know that ...............
Ok now lets go to ur page -->http://www.letgodbetrue.com/BibleTopics/Holidays/christmas-is-adultery.htm
ok lets take # 1
1. Adultery is horrible. When a woman gives her body and love to another man for intimate sexual pleasures, she terribly betrays her husband. He is defrauded by having his most personal and prized object treacherously shared with a competitor. Adultery is outrageously wicked (Lev 20:10; Num 5:11-31; Job 31:9-12; Pr 6:32-35).
This has nothing to do with bringing a christmas tree in the house so there is no point of even trying to explain it....
#2
2. Jealousy is the result. It is the anger, envy, and pain when something dear to you is given to another. It occurs intensely in a husband, when his wife gives her body and love to others. Adultery causes great jealousy, as Scripture and nature show (Num 5:11-31; Prov 6:32-35).
Now what does this have to do with christmas nothing its talking about jeoulisy ????? :screwy:
#3
3. God is Jealous. He created and saved His people from serving the devil to be His very own bride. He expects total adoration and perfect obedience. The first and great commandment is to love Him with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength. He will not share your love or interest with other things. His name is Jealous, and He burns in jealous rage when His people even flirt with anything else (Ex 20:3-5; 34:14; Deut 4:24; 6:15; 29:20; 32:16; Josh 24:19; Is 42:8; 48:11; I Cor 10:22).
By you puting a christmas tree in ur house ur showing ur love for Jesus Christ ..... in what way are u showing ur love........ well for christmas every one gets ready by cooking a lot of food, meeting with family, and when we do that in my family we pray have felowship and praise God for helping us this far.....
#4
4. God hates idols and icons. God condemned all idols, any graven image or likeness of any thing, and any devotion given to them, because He is jealous of any flirting or distraction by His chosen bride with the false gods of paganism. Their gods are bugs, trees, stones, and stars. He is the invisible Spirit of eternity. He does not want any other object getting even indirect attention. He even hated Moses' brass serpent (Ex 20:3-5; Deut 4:15-26; 5:8; II Kgs 18:3-4; Is 40:25).
Well what goes on a christmas tree First on top ...... A STAR- Which represents the sign that God used to show "majilor" where to go........
Lights- they represent the stars and all the lights represent all the light that was at the time when The Angel showed up ........ also a christmas tree is a form of a simbol of joy wich represents Jesus being born..........
Now this is what i think ......... i could be wrong but i think that this site as you can see from what i said above its totaly off...............
This site sounds like a "Martory Lui Iehova" they are the only ones that make their own bible of what ever they want and what they dont want they dont put it in.... I can go on and on about this but ill stop here hope this helps a little ........
P.S. (im not trying to be mean in answering this im only trying to get my point through clear no affence to anyone, if i affended anyone im sorry)..... t
:worship: :amen: whats with the trump card that dude is so stuckup and proud...
nihilo
12-12-2005, 11:47 PM
they are not jehova's witnesses, they claim they are baptists. but what they are in reality is fools.
Sorin-Andrei
12-13-2005, 01:01 AM
man i can't stand it when people regurgitate bollocks from online... people like that should check out www.ihavenopersonalopinion.com
especially Christians, knowing that the Bible TELLS US very clearly to TEST the spirits, not just take any fools word for truth.
that's my opinion on this topic - that and i resent the fact that Christmas has been pillaged and violated by our modern society which holds nothing of spiritual value and seeks only financial and worldly profit - but i prefer a peaceful protest, not one where i make people feel guilty by posting unBiblical crud on a website. i simply do not participate in any Christmas celebration that does not honour God and remember the birth of Christ. no need to make up a story, take things out of context and intentionally guilt trip people out of having a good time and enjoy an otherwise festive season..
ps - Moe has been the only one to really make any Biblical references on this thread - good on you mate.
moe2006
12-13-2005, 01:54 AM
there are other threads about it that cover this A-Z....
I don't have NOTHING wrong with lights or the trees.... or the stockings. How do we worship them when we just throw them up and after Christmas, we throw them down. I go to church every sunday... THAT'S worship, not putting a tree up. so no we're not worshipping trees. and the lights? isn't Jesus the light of the world? by putting them up, we celebrate our Lord's birth...
moe2006
12-13-2005, 02:01 AM
hmm....one of the reasons why we didnt put up any tree or christmas decorations
or could it be because we're lazy..... :bsmile:
lol (this post is not directed to u, Alina)
most people that are too lazy to put 'em all up are the ones that complain. Why not just get their lazy bottoms up and either put something up, or keep their bottoms down and shutup???
tucurel
12-13-2005, 12:23 PM
if this isn't a cult, it could've fooled me. this is another of their 'beliefs':
We want our assemblies to copy the apostolic churches. We find no evidence for Sunday Schools, pianos, statues, flags, plays, or other inventions. We stress Bible reading and preaching, prayer, spiritual singing, thanksgiving, the Lords Supper, and fellowship.
these people are wacky! they will mock any bible translation other than the kjv, i've been in one of these churches before. it's pretty dang near what a cult is.
their view on christmas trees, etc. is stupid. just like their other views.
I think my father was to one of those as well. When he entered the respective church (a very small one), the first question that the pastor adressed him was "Which version of Bible do you read?". Not even a mere "Hi" or "Welcome to our church". My father, being an emmigrant reads NIV, so he told him the answer. Then the pastor added firmly that KJV is the best since he has done a comparative study and reached this conclusion (notice his "innocent" intellectual pride).
Incredible, when I heard that I was just plainly shocked to see how idiot, stupid, illogical, unloving and un-Christian is legalism.
P.S. After a couple of months from this incident, the church ceased its existence. Reason: lack of members and lack of funds :rolleyes:
tucurel
12-13-2005, 12:30 PM
so if bill gated dose not belive he has "too mutch" money he can acquire more I agree with that.
The possesion of money itself (small or large amounts) does not constitute a sin. But it's the crave after money. And of course, when you have very large amounts of money sitting in your bank account, you most likely store them because you love money. That's why Jesus said that is harder for a rich man to enter the Heavens than for a camel to pass trhough the hole of a needle. The exagerrate and egocentric possesion of money is an irrefutable evidence of greediness for money. I say egocentric because if you win 10 millions at the loterry that doesn't make you a money lover. However, if you use them only for your own purposes, then you are.
cosmin
12-13-2005, 01:01 PM
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another website with false teachings.
CHRISTmas is a celebration of Christ's birth into this world so that He may save us from our sins. I look at it this way. God is a God of order. He instructed Isreal to observe certain days for certain purposes. No, God did not say: "Thou shall have Christmas" ... but do celebrate in or day the birth of Jesus on Christmas. All the other things, ie. Christmas tree, wreaths, decorations, gifts, etc. are another reminder of that day through cultural development.
Do we worship those things? if you do, then God save you. But if your heart is sincere and you worship and thank God for sending Jesus Christ in our world, then Merry Christmas! :)
cosmin
12-13-2005, 01:03 PM
so they don't believe in pianos or instruments in church, but they have a website??? hmmmmmm, interesting.
they are WHACK!--
funny how they expose their real intentions. :really:
livin_4_Christ1
12-26-2005, 01:40 AM
Christmas is a day to celebrate a birthday. Your birthday gets celebrated in special ways too, whether it decorating the house with crepe paper and happy birthday signs and balloons, I think that decorating our houses starting at the end of november, beginning of september is just a way to show that this household celebrates Jesus' birth for a LONG time. I see no wrong in a Christmas tree, lights, decorations and what not. If decorating your house keeps your thoughts off of Him, then please don't do that. But I know that when I help to decorate I keep thinking that Christmas is getting closer and Jesus's Birthday is near! It gives me Joy and Hope knowing what is coming up. I love Jesus with all my heart and NOTHING that this season or other seasons can do will change that.
Canadian, eh?
12-26-2005, 11:22 PM
from http://www.letgodbetrue.com/
Taking an evergreen tree, putting it in your house, decorating it with lights, sitting in the dark, and adoring it to Christmas carols is spiritual adultery. You profess to love Jesus, but you do so with the mementos and techniques of other lovers the world and pagan religion. You are not content with Christ's pure gospel for it has no Mass of Christ. You have added the world's seductions to keep you happy in your marriage to Christ. He is highly offended at your whorish ways.
So I assume you don't celebrate Christmas since the Catholic Church arranged the mass for the birth of Christ on the same day Germanic tribes were celebrating their pagan spirituality...or do you celebrate christmas? The Christmas tree, candles, wreaths, holly all have biblical significance. The tree (which is green) represents life. Life which is in the dead of winter-->just how people were spiritually dead when Christ came. Candles represent Chrit's unwavering light, wreaths represent the unending circle of love, and holly represents the thorns on Christ's head and his blood.
Even the day "Sunday" has a pagan origin. Emperor Constantine changed the sabbath to sunday because he associated Jesus with the "sun god" at the time. As you can see you can't start complaining now about the pagan origins of everything. It will get you no where.
flirtyromababe14
12-27-2005, 12:56 AM
hmm....wow...i totally disagree..and you know what..bringing a tree in the house helps me remember why we celebrate Christmas...it takes my eyes off the gifts..and puts them on my heart. I'm sorry to say..but I disagree 1000% with that.
yea, i agree with u on that one. bringing a Christmas tree in the house is something beautiful and i think is also part of the Christmas spirit. imagine if you had a Christmas without a tree?... that wouldnt feel right. the tree makes me feel more into the celebration. many nights i found myself staying up and laying on the couch in the living room just admiring the tree and looking at every detail... i dono what else to say, but there definitely isnt anything wrong with having a tree to brighten up Christmas
adina
12-31-2005, 03:51 PM
Taking an evergreen tree, putting it in your house, decorating it with lights, sitting in the dark, and adoring it to Christmas carols is spiritual adultery. You profess to love Jesus, but you do so with the mementos and techniques of other lovers the world and pagan religion. You are not content with Christ's pure gospel for it has no Mass of Christ. You have added the world's seductions to keep you happy in your marriage to Christ. He is highly offended at your whorish ways.
Oamenii aieshtia-s bolunz de cap.
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