View Full Version : Oh my! what's next???? This is sad!
Nollie540
12-05-2002, 01:02 AM
I never thought I would live to see the days when humans will sell admision tickets to heaven. The sad part is that many actually buy them thinking they are saved. Just check out this website...
www.ticket2heaven.com
Let\'s see your thoughts on this!
Iacob
12-05-2002, 01:10 AM
It is said that in the days of the end there will be many false roads that people will follow! there will be false ministers that people will follow. Many will come and say that they are Jesus and to come follow them. I have to remeber a bible verse that speaks of many things that will happen in the days of the end!
God help us all!:(
Iacob
12-05-2002, 01:35 AM
also .....
remember back in the day when they had the church of england vs the king of england.
The church was more powerful than the king b/c the pope said they have to pay for forgiveness of sins! So the church was overflowing with money.
Nollie540
12-05-2002, 02:38 AM
Iacob this is good. Tnx for the info. Yea there were and still are so many that say to follow them and you will get to heaven. For the new millenium there was an entire church in Korea, I believe, that locked themselfs in the church and burned it down. Their ideal was that if God didn\'t take them untill \"the second day\" they were going to God. Well they went somewhere. This is a story I heared from my pastor. Sad. Or here in LA there was a cult that dressed up in black and white shoes went into the founder\'s home where they were worshiping (the Devil) and killed themselfs with poisonous gas. This happend when the comet passes by our solar system. Ideal that they would die and their soul will go on the comet will take their souls to heaven. And numerous others. We could study these in behavioral psych.
cosmin
12-05-2002, 08:10 AM
just last night at our wed. night youth meeting we talked about a \'cult\' named:
Preterism :: http://www.preterist.org
They believe in the idea that Christ has ALREADY RETURNED! From what i understood they believe Christ returned after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. ....now what do you guys believe about that? Go and read some articles in one of their website to get a better understanging...
http://planetpreterist.com/
For WHAT IS PRETERISM ...read this Article:
http://planetpreterist.com/modules.php?name=Encyclopedia&op=content&tid=61
GOTBEEFUPINHERE
12-05-2002, 12:03 PM
that was the stupidist junk ive read for a long time. I think that the owners need to be stoped.....
cosmin
12-05-2002, 01:39 PM
and this cult is growing RAPIDLY! :(
Nollie540
12-05-2002, 02:25 PM
oh man...that\'s just \"Pretecrapism\"...lol
Hey cosmin...on your avatar you should put that starbucks logo on your forhead. lol
hey manybe you could start a cult called...\"Starbuckism\"... people would give you a lot of money...hehe. Ok..I hope you think this is just funny too. But logo on your forhead would be cool anyway. When girls want coffee they would just come to you and kiss your forehead...:D God Bless
Well, I really think more than anything it\'s symbolic.
\"Let this Symbolic Ticket and Certificate Of Authenticity serve as a constant reminder of what it takes to remain faithful to your beliefs.\"
They\'re not saying \"Buy this and go to heaven!\"...they\'re just regular money desiring people who want to somehow incorporate a nice sounding message of \"doing humanity good\" in order to cover their costs.
cosmin
12-05-2002, 03:35 PM
Claudia my wife would FLIP! if girls kissed my head! :D
at first i put it on my forehead but like you said ...it looked to CULT LIKE...and that wasn\'t my intention! :D
Nollie540
12-05-2002, 07:26 PM
LOL...I think that would look so cool, and it would be cool. Make it flash too...lol.
I saw your family\'s pics...you have a great family ..God blessed you well...
dorin83
12-05-2002, 07:38 PM
man this world is going down the pooper:(
God bless us all:cool:
LOriB143
12-05-2002, 08:33 PM
Hey you guys!! Well about this whole topic i agree with andy who mentioned that the ticket is symbolic. I think it is sorta like the whole true love waits program (if any of you have heard of it), where at the end of it you receive a promise ring as a reminder of the promise you made to God. This card is like an inspirational card that reminds you daily when you look at it of your faith and your beliefs, and if you stay strong in your beliefs it will lead you to heaven?!? No, what do you guys think?
dorin83
12-05-2002, 08:35 PM
i agree, i dont think they made this into a bad thing they just had an idea to get people to remind them of heaven
Nollie540
12-05-2002, 09:21 PM
sounds like you guys are saing that this ticket is as good as my acceptance of Jesus Christ as my personal savior. I\'m sorry but I have to dissagree with you on that. My ticket to heaven is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for me. And through Him I am saved. Not this worthless piece of plastic on the wall. My ticket was free. I don\'t have to pay $15 plus shipment and handling. I accepted Jesus Christ and that\'s it. I don\'t need any kind of idol to show that I\'m saved, no cross with chain around my neck, no \"ticket to heaven\" in my wallet. I have Him in my heart and that is all I need to get to heaven. After you accept Him in your heart you will live the life of a christian person. Jesus in your heart is all you need. Peace/Out
LOriB143
12-05-2002, 09:39 PM
WOO... WOO....
Ok lets go back here because obviously somewhere one of us is confused... I totally agree with you that a ticket to heaven cant be bought. But from what i understood from the web site, its not saying that having this card is securing a spot for you in heaven of buying it for you. Its like do you ever buy the bookmarks you put in your bible?? They may have little inspirational versus or sayings on them... i think this card is the same sort of thing.... Im not endorsing this card whatsoever but i dont think the purpose of this card is to ensure your spot in heaven. Well thats what i understood from the website anyways....??
dorin83
12-05-2002, 09:45 PM
i agree completly with lori
GOTBEEFUPINHERE
12-06-2002, 12:49 PM
there is a problem besides what you guys are talking about.... it also says that anyone of any religion can go to Heaven if they stay true to their beliefs and have the card.
the owners of this company are not saved eather they just think what ever u believe is true is good....
i disagree with these cards
dragos
12-07-2002, 03:41 PM
first these tickets i think are not meant to be bad but they come out with the wrong mesage. first they should be bibles they were selling and ticket or no ticket when you go comit suicide bombing you going to hell
Sebastian
12-09-2002, 02:20 PM
yeah dragos... read the FAQ on the ticket web site... it\'s all bull... a way to make money... they support all faiths... not just christianity.
LOriB143
12-09-2002, 06:31 PM
i agree with you dragos with what your saying! Its sad they are just trying to make money off of this thats just the world we live in
Nollie540
12-11-2002, 03:18 AM
yes Kramer...I\'d like that very much. That\'s the best idea in here. GBU and \"God give guidance and wisdom to those who think they know You but they\'re wrong, and help us all follow the right paths to You\" - Amen
StiNkerBeLl
09-22-2003, 12:03 AM
Have you guys heard this sain "Highway to hell" well thats where that "ticket to heaven" will take you. Nollie you said it great bother/sister. God Bless you!!!
NeXuS_21
09-22-2003, 01:57 PM
wow this is so messed up...... guys u should see how many satanists r found in ROmania.....
swtlips
09-22-2003, 08:07 PM
WHOA!
PEOPLE HAVE TO BE REALLY SICK IN THE HEAD TO BELIEVE THIS BULL.
SHEESH...
NOTHING IN LIFE COMES UNEARNED OR EASY.
DUUUUUH.
PLUS, THEN WOULDN'T SATAN BE ABLE TO BUY A TICKET TOO?
:)
ce smechera
09-22-2003, 09:03 PM
You guys, this isn't the first time people have come up with such things. Back in the day around Martin Luther's time (praise God he was against it) Catholics would sell things very similar. They convince the people that buying these papers (I can't remember what they called them, it's at the tip of my tounge) would get them out of purgery (the time you spend between death and your entrance into heaven according to Catholics). So ya people have always been coming up with such shananigans. Let's just pray those of us who know the truth go and make sure everyone knows the truth plain and simple, and that they don't believe those liars.
Silvi
09-22-2003, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by ce smechera
You guys, this isn't the first time people have come up with such things. Back in the day around Martin Luther's time (praise God he was against it) Catholics would sell things very similar. They convince the people that buying these papers (I can't remember what they called them, it's at the tip of my tounge) would get them out of purgery (the time you spend between death and your entrance into heaven according to Catholics). So ya people have always been coming up with such shananigans. Let's just pray those of us who know the truth go and make sure everyone knows the truth plain and simple, and that they don't believe those liars.
Actually, they sold papers that would "forgive" them. They could buy their forgivance. So they would by these "papers/tickets" and go out and sin, and then after they finished, they would pay the Catholic Priest with the "tickets" to forgive them. IT was a plot by the Catholic Church (of that century) to gain money.
The poor people didn't know better b/c most didn't read the Bible. ONly the Clergy were allowed to read the BIble.
Thank God that we have more knowledge these days and that we can read our own Bibles.
ce smechera
09-22-2003, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Silvi
Actually, they sold papers that would "forgive" them. They could buy their forgivance. So they would by these "papers/tickets" and go out and sin, and then after they finished, they would pay the Catholic Priest with the "tickets" to forgive them. IT was a plot by the Catholic Church (of that century) to gain money.
The poor people didn't know better b/c most didn't read the Bible. ONly the Clergy were allowed to read the BIble.
Thank God that we have more knowledge these days and that we can read our own Bibles.
Really?? I learned this stuff like two years ago so I kinda forgot. But dude thank you so much for the correction! And about the thing with us being able to read our Bible on our own, thank God for that. If it wouldn't have been for Martin Luther and his ideas we would all be messed up right now. And the Catholic Church cheated the peasants, a lot with many more things, all they wanted was money, ce sad.
Silvi
09-22-2003, 10:44 PM
no prob, you got the gist of it right.
the only reason i remembered is b/c i LOVE history. lolsss
BdRaEnAcKe
09-23-2003, 12:04 AM
Mustre-i Domnul, this is sticken blasthphamy toward the lords name!
Dooaammnnee!
Romanican sweets
09-28-2003, 01:28 AM
Wow yeah that really shows how some people can be greedy enough to say things like that with no remorse for how the people feel just to scam money off of them. Thanks for sharing this now those who may get scammed will know whats really going on!
Lol!!! buying tickets to heaven! :rofl:
THe website isnt working...... its off the server.....
bryan
06-27-2005, 03:57 PM
Led Zepplin
Stairway to Heaven
There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
And she's buying a stairway to heaven.
When she gets there she knows, if the stores are all closed
With a word she can get what she came for.
Ooh, ooh, and she's buying a stairway to heaven.
There's a sign on the wall but she wants to be sure
'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings.
In a tree by the brook, there's a songbird who sings,
Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven.
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, it makes me wonder.
There's a feeling I get when I look to the west,
And my spirit is crying for leaving.
In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees,
And the voices of those who standing looking.
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, it really makes me wonder.
And it's whispered that soon if we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason.
And a new day will dawn for those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter.
If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now,
It's just a spring clean for the May queen.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on.
And it makes me wonder.
Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't know,
The piper's calling you to join him,
Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow, and did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind.
And as we wind on down the road
Our shadows taller than our soul.
There walks a lady we all know
Who shines white light and wants to show
How everything still turns to gold.
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last.
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll.
And she's buying a stairway to heaven.
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