Can U Drink..............

[barosanu]

i want to know if ur alowed to drink........ well i know that ur not allowed to drink if ur a cristion but what do u think guy does it say in the bible if ur alowed to drink.................................


i think that in the bible it says can eny one find out or does God say enything about it ..................

[WiNDOWLiCKER]

PEOPLE DRANK IN THE BIBLE...EVEN JESUS DID. I DUNNO WHERE EXACTLY IT STATES IT BUT ITS THERE. THOSE THAT ABUSE IT THINK THAT SINCE JESUS DID, ITS OKAY TO GO OFF AND GET PISS DRUNK. NOT TRUE.

JESUS DIDNT GET DRUNK, HE DRANK, AS TO ENHANCE HIS MEAL OR WHATEVER. I DUNNO I STILL THINK DRINKING IS CONSSIDERED A SIN ONLY WHEN DRANK IN LARGGE AMOUNT TO THE POINT WHERE GETTING DRUNK IS YOUR REASONS BEHIND TEH ACT.

[password]

it's not a sin to drink....it's a sin to get drunk. anything that alters your thinking and your judgment is a sin. one glass of wine wont alter your judgement. romanians love making up thier own rules and then saying it's a sin if you do that.

[NeXuS_21]

drinking IS A SIN....It's NOT ok even to drink a glass...it says in the Bible that we shouldn't drink 'bauturi tari' ...Jesus didn't eighter....he probably had 'must'

[WiNDOWLiCKER]

OKAY....DIDNT HE DRINK [NOT TO BE MISTAKEN WITH "GETTING DRUNK"] WINE OR SOMETHING WHILE FEASTING?? I THINK YES

[tenazrael]

Hold on people.... this is a very sensitive topic.... for all those of you who are immature and want to a reason to drink so you can get drunk or cause you think it makes you look cool... then its wrong!!!! Another problem with drinking is that when you start, if you keep drinking you won't realize your drunk until its too late! Its a feeling that grows stronger on you but its not obvious at first. My opinion on whether or not it is right to drink is dependant first upon your heart. Many people say that wine is bad! Thats like saying a kitchen knife is bad cause it kills people, but we all know a kitchen knife is not bad unless a bad person uses it in a bad way. Same thing with wine or any alchoholic drink. Its not the drink thats bad but the way you use it. If you drink it to show off.. its bad, if you drink it to escape the worries of this world.... its bad, if you drink it for any reason besides to enjoy its taste, then its bad! Its all dependant upon what is in your heart. And if you want to know how to tell whether what your heart tells is right or not, thats what the Bible is for.

[tenazrael]

Originally posted by NØR CAL
OKAY....DIDNT HE DRINK [NOT TO BE MISTAKEN WITH "GETTING DRUNK"] WINE OR SOMETHING WHILE FEASTING?? I THINK YES

Well the Bible didn't state their that Jesus drank wine.... it only states that he turned water into wine! Ah I gotta go read up on my scriptures and find out!

[white]

I don't agree with alcohol drinking, maybe I saw too many people and families destroyed and too many sad kinds because of it, to accept any compromise in its direction. May not be a sin but it is always the first glass that opens a jurney to sin; it is a step of compromise and all that is missing is the right or the wrong circumstance to go further. It's just a step that may not take us to Heal, but being a step towards sin it is also a step away from God. Those who are strong, and know they can control themselves( not to pass the grey/black boundary), can confidently walk as far as they wish, as for myself, knowing I'm far from being strong, prefer to remain in the white area, and to walk towards God ruther then away.

It is better to avoid alcohol for many reasons such as spiritual, physical, emotional, Biblical... Name one positive thing that comes out of drinking; I can't think of any either (Besides the overly exagerated medical benifits of drinking wine... take grape seed extracts instead). Now we all know it contains Ethanol- well guess what, one finds the same organic compound in gasoline and a whole bunch of other toxic chemicals. Yuck- that stuff is not for me.

[WiNDOWLiCKER]

IM NOT FOR SURE WHAT IS SAYS IN THE BIBLE BUT I KNOW SOMEWHERE IN TEHER IT STATES SOMETHING ABOUT JESUS DRINKING AT SOME FEAST. SORRY I DONT READ TEH BIBLE MUCH SO I CANT GIVE OUT GUYS EXACT VERSES OR WHATEVER. BUT EITHER I DONT AGREE MUCH ON THE WHOLE DRINKING THING JUST CUZ THERES SUCH A FINE LINE BETWEEN WHATS RIGHT AND WRONG. I AGREE YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST AVOID THE WHOLE THING THEN RATHER TO HAVE ARGUMENTS OVER THE TOPIC. =)

Originally posted by NØR CAL
I AGREE YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST AVOID THE WHOLE THING THEN RATHER TO HAVE ARGUMENTS OVER THE TOPIC. =)

Hey- there is nothing wrong with good, kind worded debating. Debating is a great way of solving problems... look at the facts and decide what you'll do- all of life is like this.

[WiNDOWLiCKER]

HAHA I DIDNT MEAN IT IN THAT SENSE, I WAS MEANING ARGUMENST BETWEEN FAMILY MEMBERS OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT. I MEAN PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS GIVE YOU REASONS TO CHANGE TCERTAIN HINGS ABOUT YOURSELF ONLY BECAUSE THEY LOVE YOU.

ANWAYS...I LOVE DEBATES...THEY KINDA JUST OPEN YOUR EYES TO THINGS YOU DONT REALIZE YOURSELF

[cosmin]

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nr. 1 for the 'jesus drank wine crowd':

Matthew 27:34
There they offered Jesus wine to drink, mixed with gall; but after tasting it, he refused to drink it.

Mark 15:23
Then they offered him wine mixed with myrrh, but he did not take it.

Luke 1:15
for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even from birth.

nr.2 ... now to the 'is wine / drink a sin' crowd:


Ephesians 5:18
Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.

Revelation 17:2
With her the kings of the earth committed adultery and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries."

nr.3 .. to the crowd that says, 'well it DOES say in the Bible that wine/drink is allowed' (someone showed me this actually last sunday while studying the Bible..)

1 Timothy 5:23
Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.

... i doubt anyone who drinks wine drinks it as medicine! ... another thing to keep in mind is during Bible times, they didnt have EVAIN water at the local 7eleven. Wine is one of the only healthy liquid to drink. The Romans were one of the first ones during Jesus's time to actually have 'aquaducts' that brought drinkable water into their city. until then unless you lived in the country, drinkable water could not be found. it was a 'staple' drink with food.

i'll stick to my Diet Pepsi and EVIAN water, to avoid sin. hope this is fairly clear.

[SteliP]

Drinking (alcohol) was always a important subject for some people and less important for others, but I think that if it appears in the bible it's something that we don't need to be afraid to talk about. Knowing how to use the sword (bible) when you need it, it's always important. And Jesus used it every time He wanted to explain or show people how to develop a strong personality and to be moral, having the character of Christ build up in his disciples.

As you can see in the following examples the word "drink" or "drinking" is commonly used, and it can work for us or against us depending the way we understand it. Also the word "HOW"is often found in our guide (bible).

how...do you live,
how...do you pray,
how...to be a real christian,
how...to love,
how...to drink, etc.

And going straight to the subject, some of the bible people decided not to drink at all:

1 Samuel 1:15
"Not so, my lord," Hannah replied, "I am a woman who is deeply troubled. I have not been drinking wine or beer; I was pouring out my soul to the LORD .




In Jesus's time people were saying about His disciples that they are drinking; even about Him, as you can see in the following verses:

Matthew 11:18
For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon.'

Matthew 11:19
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." ' But wisdom is proved right by her actions."

Luke 5:33
They said to him, "John's disciples often fast and pray, and so do the disciples of the Pharisees, but yours go on eating and drinking."

Luke 7:33
For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, 'He has a demon.'

Luke 7:34
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." '




Perhaps you might say: "but it doesn't say exactly that Jesus drank wine, or the disciples drank wine"...well, when it talks about the end of the times, that it will be just like in the days of Noah and days of Lot, it only says "drink" not "drinking wine" but we all know that they were "drinking alchool and commiting sexual imoralities", that is why God was so mad at them and destroy them. Here ar some bible verses:

Matthew 24:38
For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;

Luke 17:27
People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

Luke 17:28
"It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building.




As a conclusion I can say (and it's just my personal opinion), that if you drink a cup of wine along with your "greasy romanian food... sarmale, slanina (bacon)...it will do good to help you digest all those goodies, as you can see in the next verse (that people often are arguing about),...:

1 Timothy 5:23
Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.




When we get together as christians, drinking is not a way to have fun, nor of helping you in any way in your depressions or excited moments!

Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,


Ephesians 5
18Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.

Isaiah 5:22
Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks.


GOD BLESS YOU!!! AND LET HIM TO BE YOUR JOY OR YOUR NEED WHEN YOU WANT TO FILL UP AN EMPTY MOMENT IN YOUR LIFE!

...with love Steli Pand

[cosmin]

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very well said Steli

[swtlips]

if it distracts you from being a christian, then i don't think you should do it...unless you are capable and responsible to watch you actions, it's your choice...God is #1.

[sweetncharming]

well done Steli; good points and good examples.

[Pianogirl]

Well done My Husband Steli. I'm so glad you see both sides of the issue. I agree with everything you said. May God Bless You and all the people reading this thread so that they can make an informed decision.

[Lorena12]

the Bible saids that we should not do what the world does. if the world drinks, we should not. Yes it is a sin. Years ago people did not have these disscusions. they were closer to God and followed his rules. they knew what a sin was, and they did not question God. NOw we are getting more and more away from him. we have so many questions. if we look in the Bible and interpret it correctly, then we have the answer. GBU

[cosmin]

Originally posted by sonialorena12
the Bible saids that we should not do what the world does. if the world drinks, we should not. Yes it is a sin. Years ago people did not have these disscusions. they were closer to God and followed his rules. they knew what a sin was, and they did not question God. NOw we are getting more and more away from him. we have so many questions. if we look in the Bible and interpret it correctly, then we have the answer. GBU

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i applaud your values.

please make sure though that your convictions are rooted in God's word and you are able to back them up with extreme passion, since these days we as youth are exposed to so many ideas and concepts that are against God's word, and our society makes them acceptable. therefore, youth begin to question what is sin.

there is nothing wrong to think and to seek the truth. as Christians if we let God lead our thoughts, then many questions will be answered from God's word.

only if we know God's word and not what we have learned from our surroundings will we be able to stay strong.